Episode 42 - Passion VS Talent
Welcome to Episode 42 of Nicky and Moose: The Podcast. We have another jam-packed episode for you today. Join your hosts as they talk about what’s poppin’ with the 120 Conference, Space Jam 2, and lessons from Naomi Osaka.
They’ll also be breaking down the empire 50 Cent is building and the strategic business moves of comedian Kountry Wayne.
So, send this to a friend, and be sure to have a pen and paper or device close by so you don’t miss these fire lessons that will propel your brand or business forward. Check it out!
What You Will Discover:
- Know your audience and cater to them.
- Sometimes its better to let your presence and your platform do the talking for you.
- There’s a difference between an owner and an operator.
- The value of employees, documentation and systems.
- The pros and cons of being talented.
- Do what feels right to you and whatever is in your best interest.
- The importance of treating what you do as a business.
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Nicky Saunders:
What's poppin'? What's poppin'? What's poppin'? Welcome to Nicky and Moose! I'm Nicky! That's Moose! Whats up Moose?
Mostafa Ghonim:
What up y'all?
Nicky Saunders:
And we're on episode 42! This week we're gonna be talking about of course, Space Jam coming out. How do we feel about it? Maybe one of us didn't see it, but I did.
Mostafa Ghonim:
Early! Early! Thirty seconds in, not even let's go.
Nicky Saunders:
We're going to talk about how rich people just do random stuff. And you know if that's going to be your vibe or not, we're going to be talking about Queens, New York. Another accomplishment for Queens and just a bunch of other stuff. Moose how are we feeling about this episode?
Mostafa Ghonim:
Well aside that you already put it out there that I didn't see some of what we're going to be talking about, um, you know, we will make this thing work and I'm excited to talk about Queens in the back end. Let's go!
Nicky Saunders:
Let's get into this intro.
Jaymie Jordan:
Two kids from Queens, cut from a different cloth. Now joining forces helping you to elevate your personal brand. Yeah I'm talking about Nicky and Moose! Bringing you a never before seen perspective into the mindset, the mentality, the behaviors, the driving force, but more importantly, the stories behind the people and brands that you know and love the most.
Nicky Saunders:
So you already know what time it is. It is the review of the week. This one's a little bit long. So for my day ones I'm not doing the voice This is a lot. Okay, this is a lot. So this one says "We Are the World: Konichiwa family. Alright, this episode was fiyah. Because you both let us in a little further on your love for people and diversity and cultures, the value of time management, and even the different pockets of solid branding in life info you both provide. You both always have me busting up laughing and enlighten esp with shooting one's shot." Okay. Okay, I see what you did there. "So here's my mid court shout out of Colorado. I fully expect to take a photo with both of you in Atlanta for our BU family 120 Conference. In my sis Nicky's voice 'Ya mean?!' And can't can't leave Moose out, 'Facts, major facts!'" You say that alot? I didn't even notice that.
Mostafa Ghonim:
No idea. Maybe you caught me. That's good.
Nicky Saunders:
Listen to you. "And in my own voice. You know what I'm going to say." I can't say that. I don't know what that is.
Mostafa Ghonim:
"*foreign language*"
Nicky Saunders:
But yeah, that one. "Love ya, Overland." That was a lot that was a lot of people. Yes. But we had to read that because Overland is a major, major, major supporter. So shout out to Overland shout out to everybody who leaves us a review. Leave us a review at podcast, Apple podcast pod chaser. Anywhere you leave a review. Moose, how are we feeling?
Mostafa Ghonim:
Very good. I feel good. It's been a good week. And I'm excited to to get Episode 42 in the books.
Nicky Saunders:
He hasn't talked to me all weekend. So this is going to be a pure conversation episode because we haven't talked because he's we're not friends. We're not friends.
Mostafa Ghonim:
Wow! Now people gonna think I'm a bad friend out here.
Nicky Saunders:
No no no! He's a great he's a great friend on Tuesdays. So, I'm kidding people. I'm kidding. I always bug him. We have this running joke when we don't talk to each other. One of us is not a good friend. It happens. We're both busy people. So we just joke on each other. But on different news. Going back to what overland said hopefully you guys are getting your 120 tickets. Okay 120series.com E's going to be back on stage and weird conversation, not weird conversation. I said this on live on my IG. I didn't know I was talking. Did you know this? Did you?
Mostafa Ghonim:
I didn't know but I saw it in the like in the schedule thing. I'm like oh okay.
Nicky Saunders:
Right.
Mostafa Ghonim:
Nicky got a session. Yeah.
Nicky Saunders:
Right, they didn't tell me.
Mostafa Ghonim:
Oh well.
Nicky Saunders:
They just put me on the schedule. Like, that's, that's how we do things? Like we just...
Mostafa Ghonim:
That's kind of common Yeah. Sometimes
Nicky Saunders:
Did they tell you during the 1%? Like I really want to have this conversation. I'm like...
Mostafa Ghonim:
No they didn't. Here's how I found out. We were in Dallas for the very first 1% ever. And we got a call from E at about five in the morning the day of the conference and he said "Hey I got an idea. Um, you guys should do the opening for the flight assessment." I'm like "Okay, that's great! When?" [He said] "Today, do it today." Yeah, and, and then sure enough, we that's how it worked out. And then they started doing it on day two.
Nicky Saunders:
Okay, well, at least she at least I have more...
Mostafa Ghonim:
You have advanced notice Nicky, this is good.
Nicky Saunders:
Wait, I still think there's you at least you got a call. I didn't have to read and I don't read.
Mostafa Ghonim:
So what you gonna talk about? Do you know what you're gonna talk about?
Nicky Saunders:
No clue. They said branding something. So I mean, that's easy, but then it sounded like Nicky and friends. I don't know if you read it was like Nicky and Deeper Than the Brand. Like it's Nicky and friends. Like I'm supposed to bring a whole bunch of people, so weird. I don't know. Anyways, side note. Sorry. 120series.com. Come see me speak at 120 and I'm probably gonna drag in Moose. Well you probably have like four sessions by yourself. I just want to let you know that, you probably do.
Mostafa Ghonim:
No, I'm not on the schedule.
Nicky Saunders:
No, you are. You are.
Mostafa Ghonim:
Oh...
Nicky Saunders:
It's going to be instantly with me. But I'm just saying you probably have a separate one.
Mostafa Ghonim:
Let's see. Let's see.
Nicky Saunders:
We're gonna have a live Nicky and Moose.
Mostafa Ghonim:
That will be cool. That might be our very first ever live episode we haven't recorded like together in the same space yet.
Nicky Saunders:
So that just happened. It's gonna be Nicky and Moose. I'm making it I'm making it a branding and business lessons with Nicky and Moose. You heard it here first. Um, I think I have enough pull. I think I have enough pull. I think I do.
Mostafa Ghonim:
You got friends. You have some friends.
Nicky Saunders:
I have friends. But anyways, let's get into this episode. First first topic of the day. Yeah. When rich people have too much money. Branson versus Bezos, who really wins this space race? Okay, the only reason the only there's no true lesson from this one. The only reason I brought this up is is this what we are supposed to expect when us and all our listeners have just way too much money that now we are just battling it out for random stuff like, Hey, who could go to space first? You let me know? And why is this even a topic still if my man already went to space? Like is Bezos gonna do like a longer time over there and actually build the building. Like I'm kind of confused. Why this is an actual like, this is cool. Don't get it twisted, right?
Mostafa Ghonim:
No its cool. It's funny.
Nicky Saunders:
It's weird, but it's cool at the same time. The reason why I say that is because like when oh boy went to space already and he had this whole little cute little motivational speech like for all the kids you can do it too. Keep dreaming. Yay. I put it on the Nicky and Moose. There's no shade. But it was cute, right? It's very cute. It got very excited and was like yo, I dreamt this which is a great lesson, right? Like, after that with money, anything is possible. That's what I really got. Don't sit here...Okay, this is gonna make me. Don't sit here and say the regular smegular person can do that. Don't do that. No, because if you were Joe Shmoe from McDonald's, the manager of McDonald's let's just say manager, let's put this give you a nice and this is no shade to anybody who's a manager of McDonald's or was I'm just saying don't sit here and tell me that person can create a spaceship this that without leaving that job. You that person is...
Mostafa Ghonim:
But they gave away a free ticket. Didn't somebody, didn't one of them give away a free ticket to like a 18 year old dude or something like that? You didn't see that? That's $250 grand. Let me ask you this. If you had, if you had a good amount of money, right, would you pay $250 to go to space?
Nicky Saunders:
See? So I can't intelligently speak on this yet, because I don't have that much money. Right? So it's like, well, at least let's, because I don't know, when you listen to this, I don't have enough money. Just to willingly spend on that. Right. Right. Right. So because by the time you hear this, I may I don't know. But my whole thing is like, you see random stuff, like just random stuff rich people buy and I salute it. Like, before, it was like, yo, okay, you got it. I don't, you could do this. You could buy this, it makes sense. You buy this random thing that, you know, flies under water, cool, whatever, not even swim under water. We call it fly. I'm cool with that. You just buy stuff because you can and because you have the money to experience things that we can't even imagine. Right? And so for him and both, both of them. Yo, I have so much money that I can experience something that I couldn't even imagine. Right? I'm I'm experienced. That's why I don't even look at materialistic thing ever since our last episode. If you haven't listened to our last episode, please go do that at this time. Insert new episode now. But um, I'll just say, ever since then, I don't necessarily look at materialistic things like bad things. It's more like an experience kind of thing. Like I'm experiencing having this I'm experiencing doing this right. Yeah. I just don't know if I will experience building a spaceship to intentionally go to beat somebody. Because he I don't know if he had intentions of doing this before. I don't know. We never heard of it. Now all of a sudden he has Virgin Galactic like, it just came out of nowhere. Now mind you. I'm cool with don't you know, don't say your ideas out loud. Or, you know, you don't have to announce everything. So maybe that's it. So if that is the situation, I apologize. I apologize. Off top. However, I still don't know. If I had that much money that I would. But what okay, but what would you? What? That's the thing. Maybe space is not our thing. Um, maybe space is not my thing. It's not Honestly, I've never had the the desire to get outside of the globe. I need to go and travel the world. Actually, no, I don't because I've done that already. But I don't see myself going into space. How about that? I just don't.
Mostafa Ghonim:
Yeah it's an interesting dialogue, because I mean, like, I looked into it a little bit, right, because I was the hotel today I saw they had a thing on the news. And they were just kind of like comparing stats, right? One of them started in 2000. The other one started in 2004. This whole like journey to make it to space. Okay, So they've been at it for a minute. But then they were comparing like, net worth. So like one of them. Richard Branson has like a $7 billion net worth. Jeff Bezos got like a $200 billion net worth. Yeah, it was just like, you know, the comparison of what they have access to is also I mean, it's a lot, but it's also totally different type of money. Yes. And, and then they're not even agreeing to the same competition, if you will. So like one of them is saying, Oh, you got to be X amount of distance outside of space. The other one is like no it's not 50 is 62. Like, they're just like, they're like going over what feels to me like silly, competitive stuff to be like, Nah, I'm just about to do more than what you did. Right? Because I can.
Nicky Saunders:
Yeah, yeah. So this is listen, if, and this is more of a question for the listeners, and the viewers shout out to all our podcast audio people, and our YouTube people. If you had as much resources, and money as these two have, what what would you do this? What would...If space is not your thing, what would you do? Because clearly, this is just like a fun project. Like why not?
Mostafa Ghonim:
Pretty much. Pretty much.
Nicky Saunders:
And then Bezos just stepped down. So he's like, Look, I have time what's up like? I can totally dedicate my money and my time to my space journey. Listen, maybe...
Mostafa Ghonim:
Pretty much, I mean, yeah, you're you're explaining it. And that's exactly what's happening right now.
Nicky Saunders:
Yeah, maybe when he was super young, he totally wanted to be an astronaut. And then all of a sudden Amazon came along, and he took over the world. And he was like, let me go back to my childhood. And that I've always imagined I would be. And so, okay, yeah.
Mostafa Ghonim:
In other news...
Nicky Saunders:
In other news, Space Jam came out! In all seriousness, I think it's really dope. all seriousness, I think, is really dope what both of them are doing the fact that, you know, when you want something, and you have the means to do it, why not? Right? This is more of a why not situation? Like I said, I don't know if I would do it. But I probably have a why not situation as well that people are going to be like, I don't know if I would do that if I had that much.
Mostafa Ghonim:
They, were getting some a little smoke, you know, people were like, yo, why are you spending all this money to go to space and not like giving back to, you know, a greater cause?
Nicky Saunders:
So, so, see, let's not get into that topic. Because I think that is like, everybody says that I think it's like once and understand both of them are huge with giving back. Both of them are very highly documented about that. So if anybody wants to come and say that when they already contribute a lot, that's weird to me. But at the same time, like, not one person or two rich fools, not fools, not calling y'all fools but still, like, is going to, like, save world hunger. Like nothing like let it go. Let that go. It takes a lot. It takes a lot. But anyways, anyways, let's get into Space Jam. Of course, Space Jam two came out and LeBron said this.
LeBron:
Today. I literally got a movie that dropped today! Space
Jam:
A New Legacy! Oh, my goodness! It finally just hit me. I can't believe it. I'm so honored. So humbled. This is crazy. It doesn't make sense to me. But I got so much energy today. I hope everybody go out. Check it out in the movie theaters. Man, HBO Max. Wherever it's around you. Please check it out. I promise you won't be disappointed. I'm just super hype right now. I can't even like control my energy right now. I'm watching my son right now playing a basketball game in Augusta, Georgia. My wife is right next to me. She's looking at me crazy because it's like eight o'clock in the morning.
Nicky Saunders:
He going again. He's going again. We're not doing it again.
Mostafa Ghonim:
Ok LeBron I see you.
Nicky Saunders:
So okay.
Mostafa Ghonim:
Funny. What you think of it?
Nicky Saunders:
What did you think of it Moose?
Mostafa Ghonim:
Well, I mean, I'm gonna hold my comments until next week.
Nicky Saunders:
Ok 'til next week. Um, no. So this is this is the funny thing. Okay. So first off, I really liked it. I really, really like Space Jam. And I'm going to admit, I'm a little bit of a baby. I get this from my mom. There was a moment that I cried. I did. I'm a little baby like I really got this from my mother. I really I can't believe I turned out like my mother. But there was just like an emotional part that I was like, Oh my god, right and I'm tearing up it was weird. But...
Mostafa Ghonim:
I was not expcting that. I wasn't even expecting you to say you liked it. This is this is great. Okay.
Nicky Saunders:
Yeah, no, I really liked it now. I put up a on Nicky and Moose Instagram, where it was like it's supposed to be corny. Its supposed to be cheesy. Because if you are if you are the age of that you saw Space Jam one. Okay, I don't remember Jordan's. This this is another good thing. I don't remember. Um, Jordan's acting. I don't right. I don't really remember anything about it. I just remember it was super dope, right? This one off top. I was like, oh man, you this. This is this is different acting. This is different. This is not this is not the greatest right in the beginning because it was just If you watched it if you didn't watch it, please like, turn this off for at least five minutes and then come back to it.
Mostafa Ghonim:
Okay, just fast forward cuz I got mad questions.
Nicky Saunders:
Real quick actually just go like this, right like the 15 second thing, just keep going. Um, it started out very typical was like, you got to be about basketball be be the greatest. Go back and practice and how can you be great if you don't go? Like, give me all the cliche things.
Mostafa Ghonim:
So LeBron was motivational real quick.
Nicky Saunders:
It was real quick, motivational. You know, he had a different wife, and was like, you're so hard on your son. But how is he supposed to be great? Maybe he doesn't want to like it was was really bad in the beginning. However, it got really good. Like, I think you got numb to the bad acting. You got very numb and got very distracted with how, like the graphics and everything that was happening with it. It was really good. It was. I was very surprised how good it was. I was. I was like, LeBron, please don't ever act again, outside of like, family movies. But then I kept repeating to myself. This is a family movie. This is for kids. This is not for you, though, though. They need that encouragement. They need the bad acting. They need like, LeBron is the number one basketball player. That doesn't necessarily mean he is the number one actor. Right? So...
Mostafa Ghonim:
Did M.J. make a cameo? Ok I'm sorry.
Nicky Saunders:
You got it. Michael Jordan was in there.
Mostafa Ghonim:
Oh, he was okay. Okay.
Nicky Saunders:
No, I just said Michael Jordan was in there.
Mostafa Ghonim:
Oh wasn't there?
Nicky Saunders:
Was in there. Now...
Mostafa Ghonim:
Ok I'm just gonna watch it because now I'm...
Nicky Saunders:
Yeah just watch it. Actually, no, I'm gonna say I'm really mad that Michael Jordan wasn't on there. Michael B. Jordan was in there. I'm gonna say that. Sorry, people. Spoiler alert. I'm sorry. Yeah, no, no. No, no, no, no. By the time you hear it is it's Tuesday. It's already been out. You should have watched it. Right. Um, yeah, it was Michael B., but I was really excited. I really wanted Michael Jordan to be on there as just like a quick cameo.
Mostafa Ghonim:
That's what I thought would happen. I mean, yeah. Okay.
Nicky Saunders:
But overall, it was really good. And and...
Mostafa Ghonim:
So why did you cry?
Nicky Saunders:
I'm not, I'm not, it was it was a sad moment. Stop. Okay, there's no whatever. Whatever.
Mostafa Ghonim:
We gotta take that part out. What made me cry this week?
Nicky Saunders:
Y'all watching y'all y'all comment what y'all think made me cry. Okay. Whatever. But I guess LeBron was getting a lot of hate for to acting because like I said, it wasn't the greatest if you didn't keep in mind that it wasn't for adults. It was for kids. Right? So of course, he tweeted, Hi haters, because Space Jam opened up with $32 million. 32. Now this was Saturday, that of the week that it came out. So by the time you listen to this, it probably made way more money, way, way more money. Um, but I can't even be mad at it. It was pretty good. It was pretty good.
Mostafa Ghonim:
And mind you I mean, people are not fully back in theaters yet. So that's, um,
Nicky Saunders:
I watched it on HBO Max. I think they count that.
Mostafa Ghonim:
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's cool. It's like,
Nicky Saunders:
yeah, wonder how streams work for movies.
Mostafa Ghonim:
That's what I'm thinking now.
Nicky Saunders:
Yeah, that is interesting.
Mostafa Ghonim:
Its box office. Yeah.
Nicky Saunders:
Mm hmm.
Mostafa Ghonim:
Interesting.
Nicky Saunders:
How many subscriptions came in? Like, that's..
Mostafa Ghonim:
And how do you bill based on if you're already subscribed? Like maybe you were already subscribed to HBO Max.
Nicky Saunders:
I was.
Mostafa Ghonim:
So that's interesting.
Nicky Saunders:
I was. I was just because I knew movies were going to be on HBO Max. And I didn't know if I was going to go back to theaters I didn't. I don't know. I got TV here. I got popcorn here. That doesn't cost $40. I think I'm okay here. I'll get better. I'll get better speakers. Maybe that's it? I don't know. That's just me. Um, yeah. Y'all, Are y'all going back to theaters? Let us know if you're going back to theaters. But, um, there was one that I was watching this weekend that was a whole, like, lesson that made me super excited. Right? And that was the Naomi how you say your last name? Osaka. Naomi Osaka's a docu series on Netflix. Right? Yeah. We, we spoke about her before, of course. But the breakdown of this particular Netflix special was amazing. Like to truly understand how great someone can be in a public light but be so introvert. Crazy. So let's, let's, let's listen to this mini trailer real quick. And enough that Netflix doesn't flag us.
Trailer:
It's like an overnight for Osaka and I think that pressure weighed heavily on her. The longer amount of attention that I get is kind of ridiculous. No one prepares you for that. I don't know. I feel like I'm struggling.
Nicky Saunders:
So fun fact, you know, Uninterrupted did that one?
Mostafa Ghonim:
Yes, I did. I saw my have Carter posted on his Instagram.
Nicky Saunders:
That's big. Um, two. I liked the timing on it. Right? Because, you know, she's said she's not doing a whole
Mostafa Ghonim:
Silent protest almost. I like that. bunch of tournament's right due to mental health. And so I'm not that hold on, let me retract it. And I don't want people to think like, she's going crazy. She's just doing so she keeps herself in check with her mental health not I don't want to, I don't want people to be like Nicky said, She's depressed. Now. I'm not saying all that. Um, but there are a few lessons that I got out of this that you might like, right? One saying things without saying anything. So meaning. Remember when the Black Lives Matter situation was like at its peak? And she wore he different masks, right? Ye h. So she has seven masks, w ich would be for the whole t urnament. She would play all seven times with a different na e. Right. And the one of the t e people who interviewed her w s like, yo, how do you think tha came across? Like I see yo become a leader. How do you hink it came across? And she as pretty much saying, like, ell, how did you think about it Because the whole point was o get you to speak about it, ike to get the world to alk about it. She didn't ay anything, right? She
Nicky Saunders:
Right. That was one like one of the main lessons just literally wore the mask d fferent names and everyth ng like that and allowed her p esence and her platform to do th talking for her. I was like... I got like, okay, for my introverts, you don't necessarily have to talk to get your point across. Right, you have to wisely use your platform. Right, make a statement without making a statement. It was so dope to how she broke that down right now two here's where I can understand. I was gonna say something crazy. Let me retract that because I was like, I can understand why people do drugs.
Mostafa Ghonim:
Oh, okay.
Nicky Saunders:
I was like people do drugs and, and become alcoholics and everything like that, when they become on top. The reason why is because people who become number one, regardless if it's quick, regardless is is like you have a pressure that is unmatched. Right? And so, you're looking at it like, I feel like I have to prove myself over and over again. So when you think about, like how she came up, it was like, okay, is this a fluke? Do it again, okay, she did it again. But is this another fluke like it to the critics and everybody. It was always like you have to defend over and over again in, you're constantly proving you're never to the point where it's like, yo, you're dope. You're good enough. You're number one. You're known as number one, right? I think. Okay, so my question to you would be, when is it that you get stamped Yo, you good? Like, after it is you're great like, she's 23. Now granted, she's 23, I believe she's won like four Grand Slams, right. She's done a lot at such a young age. Right? My question is that she has to, like, have 10? Does like... you beat the one of the greatest of that time, right? One of the greatest of that time, and its a constant What's next? What are you doing? Yeah. Could you do it again? Could you do it agian and I'm thinking about same thing with like, rap artists. Like I even though Drake is top, clearly decades, the Artist of the Decade, when he drops, and if it isn't, number one, they'll instantly cream him and be like, yo, flop. He lost it. And I'm like, Wait. That pressure. And I can understand why some people are just cool with a certain level. Like I can understand. I don't I don't condone it Don't get it twisted, but I can understand. Yo, let me let me coast right here. Because the constant Go Go, go, go, go, go, go go. Oh, that's exhausting.
Mostafa Ghonim:
Yeah, yeah. No, 100% I don't think like, I think when it comes to a conversation like that, you really got to understand media, right? Like, I don't know that anyone is ever going to achieve something to arrive at a certain status where they're like, okay, they're great. now. The way media works is to always create some form of narrative to keep people intrigued to create some form of hype, right, so that they can push their, their stories out there. So I think that's what always happens when you think of many of the greats right? Like, everyone's been bashed, you talk about Drake, LeBron, still getting bashed til this day, no matter what he does, no matter what he wins or doesn't win, right? There's always something to compare to. I think even when we watched the last dance, we saw how MJ was also portrayed, and there were stories happening. So I don't know that that's probably a good metric to look at. You know, like, I think people who are true fans and supporters of the sport, they understand some of the accomplishments like she's won her first title. I think as a teenager, she would have been 15 or 16 years old, when she beat Serena in the US Open. So like, you know, you got to think about that as like, Well hold up a second. That's still a major accomplishment. You know, some years go by and she's still in the sport, obviously dominating and and pretty much decided to step down on her own. So, yeah, I think when when you when you look to the media to look to give that stamp, I don't think they'll ever give it until retirement. I think when when somebody retires, that's typically when they're like okay, bet let me kind of give you some of the respect that you deserve kind of thing.
Nicky Saunders:
Now that makes sense. But it's just like, man, there's one statement she made. And if you haven't watched it, please watch like, seriously, watch it. It's really, really good. Um, especially if you're an introvert, please watch it. Right. But there's one thing she was like, yo, before the, you know, before the limelight, like I could win, and, you know, it's kind of under the radar. I can win I can lose its not there's no big deal right? Now, because I won that particular Grand Slam against Serena Williams. Like, now it's like, constant. Just constant like just constant like, okay, we're going to shoot this we're going to do this you got to talk to these people. You got to do this and it's like, and she said it even in the trailer, like, yo, you're no one prepares you for the attention. No one prepares you for, let's say for like us, common folks for the viral moments and what that would come with right? We could hear it. We could look at majority of the greats and but until we truly experience all that attention. Like we're not really sure. Like as as a boxing fan its like, you're all prepared until you get that first punch. Everybody knows how to fight until they get hit. Right? So, its the same thing. Its like, yo, we could want this, right? We can want, Yo, I want the fame. I want the attention until you can't even go to the restroom. Until like, you just trying to get to your locker room because you crying because you just took an L. And you have to do four or five different interviews in between. Right? What was dope like what was that that kid tennis? Coco. Right? When she beat her, right? And she um, Coco was crying. Right? She was like, yo, let me do this interview with you. Because I've been here. Like, I felt how you felt. So don't worry about it. And she was like, the CoCo was like, Yo, I just want to cry. Like, I don't even want to do this interview. But, you know, she's here telling me I you know, to do it. Yeah. So once again, showing that kind of leadership thing. But I think we don't we look at the celebrities and be like, once again, yo, this is what you asked for. Right? This is what you, you know, what you've trained for your whole time. And then I thought about it. She and I think a lot of people, right. Like, she was doing tennis since she was like, I don't know, like two or three like mad young, right? They showed they showed footage of Mad young. But sometimes it's just for fun. Sometimes it's just a passion sometimes, you know, because of the talent that you have. You may do it, because that's just part of you. Are you really doing it for the fame? Or just because it's part of you? So it's like, yes, to the outside world. Okay, you came to this thing, you knew what you were getting into. You knew this lifestyle, you know, you got to do 19 million interviews this What? But I respect her more after watching this because it's like, No, no, no. No, I didn't know. Like I understood, but not really. And I, at the end of the day have control of, you know, my mental and what keeps me safe and what keeps me whole, you know? And here's an uh I really wish you saw this. She was homeschooled. So the only people that she really talked to was her parents and her sister.
Mostafa Ghonim:
Oh, wow. Which makes sense why she's so introverted too.
Nicky Saunders:
Right? So she's super comfortable around them. But it's like, a struggle for anything else. And you could hear and she's done great. But like, almost to the point where it's like, yo, human interaction is super needed. Especially if you are that talented, and you are about to go out to the world and become, you know, one of the greats, it's a really good, I'm not going to bring it all the way down. I semi did. But everybody go watch that. There's so many different lessons from it that I didn't mention. Maybe we'll mention on the after show. I don't know. We'll see how I feel. But yes, go watch it. Um, your turn Moose.
Mostafa Ghonim:
But, I will say that for some people, honestly, I even I think for myself, the greatest thing that's ever happened is not making it professionally in something you're passionate about. And and I say that specifically to children because like, you know, I think about even myself who was like obsessed with baseball growing up, I'm talking about absolutely obsessed with baseball. And then you you look at especially as you get closer to the industry, and you can work with some people in the sport. And you learn more about the business side of baseball, or the business side of professional sports in general. You're like, man, I saw ugly business. Like I'm actually fortunate. I didn't get to live that side of it in a way because my perception of the game would have been totally different. And then as you look at somebody like Naomi, it's cool that she has the ability to step back and not think about, oh, well, I have to keep playing because I need the money. And I think there are other sports where some people don't have that privilege or luxury to be able to say, I'm gonna step back and not lose out on anything. Right? Like, of course, it's a different example. But I just look at someone like a Colin Kaepernick, for example, right? Like, yes, he stepped away from the game for different reasons. But he also wasn't allowed to come back in. Right. So like there are so a lot of other sports that you don't have that luxury where you could be like, I just don't feel like playing right now. It's like now if you don't feel like playing, you're going to leave for good, I think is great that she's a part of a sport like that, because I don't know that that's something that happens regularly. Like, I mean, maybe in the sport of boxing, or a fighting sport, combat sport, that's more common, because you can schedule your fights out, you know, to give you that type of break, or something like that. But think about it in professional sports, like it rarely happens, where someone can just break away, get their stuff, right, and come back. So I think the fact that she has people around her who can help her navigate and make that decision, because again, I think she's only happy 20 now, I believe, yeah. Oh, 23? Oh, gotcha. So yeah, I think that's, um, that's a great benefit to her. And I'm curious to see if she comes back how things are going to go and when she comes back, like these are all things that I think can can almost create a new wave for new athletes as they enter industries, because then they have, she'll be an example to follow after like, Oh, it's okay to break away from the sport, and live the rest of your childhood innocence, because you technically were robbed of that experience. If you had to jump to the pros as a teenager. So yeah, I'd be curious to see how the next couple years unfold.
Nicky Saunders:
There was a think she did no, not I think I know she did a Grand Slam during the pandemic. I was like, Oh, she's gonna win. Because there's no audience. There's no audience.
Mostafa Ghonim:
Nobody in the stands. Yeah.
Nicky Saunders:
That was the seven, mask and everything like that. I was like, Oh, she's gonna kill there's no audience. She did amazing. I think there was like, one slip up. But then she did amazing. I was like, okay, so more on on the after show cuz I have a question of, like, when you are protected inside, does that... Is that one of the secret sauce of becoming great? I'm just saying, when you're all no distractions Can't I mean, we saw Michael Jackson and all these, but they...after show conversations. So, um, man, we have a lot to talk about. And time is already flying. So I'm trying to figure out okay, so. So this may be, this is what we're gonna do. Queens...50 Cent. He did another show raising Kanan. Right? So another Power show, another big premiere. And another to add to his legacy. He's doing the BMF series. 50 Cent I don't care what you say about him is just super smart. And like has saw his new lane, right? Just Okay, I'm doing amazing with these shows. Like they're working, I have a formula. I'm going to milk out Power for everything it's worth, I'm going to create an after show. And then I'm going to do a pre show. And then I may do like separate ones of each character. Like I'm gonna just, it's going to be a whole vibe. Then I'm gonna do the BMF series. I'm going to do the ABC series. Like he knows. He put on this producer hat. And it's a wrap. Right? He's but the countless of lessons and for day one people we went over 50 for our Facebook Live Show. That was a great show. I mean, really great show. So it was only right that with the release of his new show, we bring back a few lessons. New ones, not bring them back, like recycled but some new lessons from 50 that I figure I could get Moose to have some dialogue on because I was really strategic with these ones. So here's the first one.
50 Cent:
You're not making money until you're making money when you're not working. I didn't make no money when I didn't do a show. You see what I'm saying? I had to work to get the money every time. When I'm not in the show and the show was still...they go how you kill yourself off your own show? They don't understand that. I'm like, cuz this... It doesn't require me on this.
Mostafa Ghonim:
I love it. I love it. I love it. Yeah, I mean, look, it's it's, it's a, it's a lesson that every entrepreneur learns, right? There's a difference between an owner and a difference between someone who is an operator, right? As an operator, you're fully you're fully engulfed into your, into your business, like your hands on with it. And it's crazy, because I was telling the story of a company that I was doing some consulting work recently. And I kind of like was exposed to another consultant who's also working with that same organization at the same time. So anytime I'm, I'm in a space like that, I always put my pride to the side. And I'm like, you know, what can I learn from different practices, different approaches, right. And one of the things that really came to my attention is that much of the advising he was doing, of course, he was helping him out with a different process. But we were having one particular conversation where all of us were on the line. And his entire setup was, if we build around this one particular individual, what do you do if that person goes on vacation? If they become sick, if they decide to leave? Right? What How can the business continue to run at that point. And it's not just like, as you listen to this clip, I don't want everyone or the listeners or the viewers to think about it, just as it relates to you. You are, you know, the owner, the entrepreneur, think about people in your business, who you're trying to position in that type of role so that you can be free so that you can be like, Oh, well, that's what I got to do. It's like, sometimes the worst thing that you can run into run into is a really good employee. Because a really good employee covers a lot of gaps in your process in your system that shouldn't exist. Right? I'm telling you. You're like oh, my business is good. It's like, No, your business is good, because this person is there. Yeah, come on with it, come on with it. I'm back.
Nicky Saunders:
I'm just hyping because what you said is so true. I'm like, Yeah, man, but at the same time, right? It is. Is it the employee? Like, I'm trying that, Oh, see? You sent me? Um, okay, okay, I'm gonna flip it, I'm gonna flip it. This, this makes me think, wait, based off what you said, like, everybody should start documenting, like, everybody should start. And regardless, if you have a nine to five, or you're an entrepreneur, like you have to start documenting, and duplicating yourself of some way, shape or form. So you can grow Navy, not necessarily from a, let's say, a, you know, money standpoint, like he's talking about, like passive income, right. But just from a standpoint of, you know, I want to get to the next position, I want to get, you know, these tasks off my plate so I can concentrate, possibly, on my purpose, you know, so when you said that, I was like, another thing, but I was like, okay, document. I mean, even for myself, I'm like, okay, you know, I got certain people that I want to be able to be put in position and I'm like, Okay, you got to get this really documented so they can learn so they can grow. So no, no, that was that was good Moose That was good. I like that.
Mostafa Ghonim:
Thanks!
Nicky Saunders:
I didn't know if you wanted to keep going because I was I cut you off. I was like, I just kept pressing air horns.
Mostafa Ghonim:
No, I'm with you on that. I mean, no its good. I think that that sums it up, because you learn you learn a lot when you see other people's businesses, man. And I think that's the unique thing about the position that we're in when we're able to advise and kind of, you know, serve as consultants to some of these companies and brands is like you're able to see what they're doing. And here's another little. This is slightly off topic, but it's like, sometimes you learn how little it takes to be successful. When you get close, you're like, Oh, yeah, you guys became successful with all these mistakes. Oh, wow. Wow. Like you you know for those who are listening And again, just, I hope we can serve as, as conduits or whatever that word is. For you, as you know, like, we're able to look a little bit closer, you know, the, maybe some of the listeners are, and, and trust us when we tell you like, it takes a lot less than what you think it takes, you know, to get some traction to build a little momentum and make some things happen, because they are companies succeeding with a lot of mistakes, and still able to hold it up, you know, like, yeah,
Nicky Saunders:
I'm more on the, you get paid for the thought, at a certain point. Right. So what I mean by that is like 50 thought of a show, right? He put the proper people in place. And he thought, or the show, gave his vision out, he trusted his team. And now he gets to sit back like he, like he said, he even killed himself off, because he's still going to make money every single time that show airs. Regardless if it's new, or rerun anything like he's like, yo, actually, why did I make myself into a character? You know what? Hold on, but knowing 50, he was like, I have all these different ideas for the show, one of them is going to be my character and make a spin off off of my character. So I might as well make him very important, but then kill him off so, I don't have to do any work. So I could then concentrate on this show, plan that out give it to the right people. That what I'm saying, like, it's more, he went from, I'm actually rapping, I'm actually going on tour, I'm doing a lot of stuff, right? To where it is then a team situation, and him just giving out his vision. And him playing point on this where it gotta go this where it gotta go this way it got to where it gotta go even to like, which makes me start thinking is like, what is some of the things that will let go of more of the manual? From what we do? And I think everybody should start asking themselves that at some point, like, what is some of the manual stuff that I really need to let go? So I can let this run smoother that I can enjoy leaning back and seeing that mailbox money come in, instead of always being paid for my time? Yeah, that's, that's more and I know, for me, I've been on that all year, like, Okay, what are where can I place my money? What do what needs to happen? What certain systems has to be in place for me to understand. And this year was my more of appreciation for systems, more appreciation of like, No, you don't have to do everything. Like, what are... Yeah. To be honest, and for those people who do do a lot, and is that employee that Moose was talking about earlier that you find the gaps, and, you know, you, you're pretty much 15 people in one, right? And I'm exaggerating, but at least five people in one, right? Um, you need to learn to say, no, it starts with no. It starts with you not taking on everything in the world, and really focusing on the real manual stuff that you are doing, and how do you either delegate that? Or how do you automate that? He took acting, and automate, automate that.
Mostafa Ghonim:
Major, that's major, yeah, think about being in a position to write the story. And like, I'm just flipping the script here, so that it can match the context of you know, movies and shows, but he was literally in a position where he can write himself out of the show, and still be in a position to get paid. So I think that's like, that's another show. It's called Power. But it's a serious power move, that you can control the narrative so much so that you're writing the own script. You know, you're writing your own scripts. So it's like, wow, that, that, to me is fascinating. I think that's a part of it, too, that and I understand the concept of collaboration. I think that's important. But it's like, just be careful to not kind of sign your life away, you know, for for just an opportunity. Because I think that's like when you see when you see people like who we've really highlighted as Like, would you consider a big boss right I, we talked about Rick Ross and Dame dash a lot of different people that we've talked about. It's like they're so big on, you know, not signing away their freedom or their time that they'll say no to collaboration. And it's interesting, because I think that's a whole different conversation. But it's like, they they never want to partner with somebody who's like, No, I want to continue to be able to control you know, my piece of the pie, or just how I spent my time. So yeah, that that that I think is a lesson to it, I you know, put yourself in a position where so much power that you can write yourself in, and you can write yourself out of the script, and keep going.
Nicky Saunders:
Let's get into this next lesson from 50 cent. Talking about something that's common in this podcast, passion versus talent.
50 Cent:
Things, what I think people the only thing that separates us is passion. Yeah. And when you become passionate at something early enough that you can put enough energy into it, for it to become good enough at it. Because you love it like is a some people are so talented, they don't have to work at it. It just comes natural. Yeah. And those people, I think, have a high probability of being distracted.
Nicky Saunders:
So my question to you, is it a bad thing? When you know, your talent, like, the way that he put it was the people who have passion have the advantage? Not necessarily the people who have talent where from before, I would assume that people who have talent has it way better. Because you could just turn that on. Like, that's not that's waking up and being alive. And you can go, right, but the way he put it was like, Nah, I get, I see the goal. I'm having fun with this. This is something I honestly love. So I could do this all the time. But the person who's talented who wake up like that, they may not see the value in it, and they'll get distracted easily because it's not fun to them. This is them, period. This is who they are, where the other person is, this is what they want to be. So I always was like, oh, talent natural, you're good. Boom. But now it's more like, Huh, I guess I can see what you're saying.
Mostafa Ghonim:
It's really like an element of, you can get sort of work ethic, right, but there's like an X Factor. And it really is, you know how much you're willing to put into it. Because I think that and we've said this before, but the better you are at something, the more that it's it becomes easier for you to cheat. Yep. Because you can cut corners and you're so good that you'll make up for it. They won't be able to catch on to it. You don't have to give your best but people are still going to love it will love you because again you're so talented. So really it almost whether you notice it or not consciously or unconsciously it's almost engraving in you bad habits. So if you don't have the right people around you to kind of like correct that in you then you that becomes your new normal. So I have to agree with you on this there for me I would say definitely the passion is probably better than the talent because at least a passion you get a certain level of commitment with it because you understand that it's not going to click on its own there's got to be something that you add to it and constantly work in rotation you know to get to where you want to go so the distraction piece though Yeah...
Nicky Saunders:
Yes, that made me think I ain't gonna lie cuz I'm like oh man, you know? But also are you distracted because you're not putting enough value to it. I'm.... I'm like we've had this conversation where like, you could be super talented and you don't even know truly your your gift because you devalue it so much in which that's why you get distracted with everything else because you're still trying to find it but you're like its right there. Right so there's that's an element of it, but some people who do know like, man, prime prime example is and I love you Nick. You won't hear this because this is already pretty much an hour in. But um, shout out to those who are still listening. Um, but Nick is super talented, super talented, right? But he's one of those like procrastinators, because he knows how talented he is. He knows how quick he could do it. Right? It's like, I'll wait. And then I'll forget, because I got distracted with 19 other different things. I used to be the same way like, Oh, no, that's why I have to do it right then and there to avoid that, right? People be like, Why are you so quick? Because I promise you, if I don't do it right now, I'm not going to do it. I am fully aware of my flaws with that, right? But that's one of the things that because you know, how dope you are. You're like, I could do this at any time. Because it takes me three seconds, it takes me three seconds, whereas you are waiting. Like the person who has passion, the person who wants to have that is, is making up for that time. Like you wait, I'm already doing it. And I'm producing it, boom, boom, boom, to the point where at some point, I'm going to be as good as you because you're waiting. And you're distracted. So yeah, and I can see that with 50. Because he said it. When we were going over him before. He wasn't the greatest rapper, right. But he had a passion for it. He's not the greatest actor or probably even producer. But he has a passion for it. And he's going for it to the point where he has a huge Starz deal. He has multiple shows, he continues to come up with multiple shows. And we don't see this ending anytime soon. So at some point, you have to for those who are talented, you have to combine talent and bring passion with it. Right? Right, because that is a deadly force. That is the ultimate deadly force, if not one or the other. Like, is cool. But when you have both, that's killer for right now. Or and I could be wrong, but I believe 50 Cent's passion is what has been his biggest success. When it comes to music, when it comes to film. In any of his business ventures, it's just been, I'm very passionate about this, I'm very passionate about getting a deal with Vitamin Water. Like I drink water, this then third, I could see the deal, I could do this, that and the third, he was passionate about making it as big as he did, and having it's so out there. So I think at some point, you need to be scared of the person who has passion. You need to not just so be comfortable with how talented you are. You have to be very scared of passion. Because if not, you are going to get overrun and the person who has more passion is going to beat you even though you were born with that talent.
Mostafa Ghonim:
That's so real because a lot of people lose their spots.
Nicky Saunders:
Um, man, that is so shout out to 50 and congratulations on the new show. Had to highlight him real quick with a few lessons. But there was this interview that I saw. For those who know him, Kountry Wayne is a social media comedian. And now he's been in film. So he's just a comedian. I'm not even going to categorize him as just social media, but he is definitely known for his skits as far as on Instagram, just social media, Facebook, he got really big on Facebook first, that's when it started getting real, all the traction. But there was an interview that he did, about his success with it. Right. And there's two parts to it. Like, you look at skits and you don't even think of it as being a business. So his mindset with it was different. And then also, he doesn't curse in his skit, right? He doesn't curse in skits and people were asking like, yo, why? Right? Now mind you on this same interview that I'm going to play a piece of, he admitted making $300k a month from content. $300k so for those who think you cannot make money from posting, he is showing you something different. $300k?
Mostafa Ghonim:
That's next level.
Nicky Saunders:
What I'm what he did, he does a video every single day. And for those who don't know, kind of the system, I'll break it down a little bit. But, watch or listen to this clip.
Kountry Wayne:
I knew I had, I've treated it like a business everything I do I create a program, you know. So I treat it like a real business, right? And now it's a real business can't get in the business and be like, let's just be entertainers. This is the entertainment business. At the end the day if I'm funny, but I die my kids can't eat. That ain't really funny. But is it because you're clean, because...Eddie Murphy rich. You gonna have exceptions. I made it out the dope game, but everybody else ain't make it out. Right? So you can't go with exceptions. You got to go with... nah I ain't talking about be clean. But to get a run through your videos online, it got to be clean.
Nicky Saunders:
This may be a long, we may go over time, I'm gonna be honest with you. Bear with us. There was like three lessons on that one thing I want to know what you you got out of it first. We can go back and forth with this because...
Mostafa Ghonim:
Yeah, my favorite is where he said that, you know, he's not telling everyone to be clean. I like you don't, you don't got to do what I'm doing. But that's what I'm doing. Because I know, this is how I make it work, you know, for me. So like, I love that right there. He's He's very well aware that there are other ways to do it. But here's how I decided to do it, even if it may not be the most popular approach. So I love that it's like, you know, sometimes what you decide to do, may feel wrong in other people's eyes, it may not necessarily make sense in other people's eyes, even your own culture. But if it feels right to you, and you're making sense of it, because you know that your decision to stay clean is going to put you in front of more people is going to like he said, get some more ads in front of you that's in your best interest. And as simple as it may seem, that is your best move, whatever is in your best interest.
Nicky Saunders:
Yeah, and and to that point, right? There... It goes to also with there are some exceptions to the rule. He's like, I'm not going to look, I'm not going to lean on the exceptions. Like I may not be that exception. So I got to play the game. So I got to look at the Seinfeld's and the greats and see how they did things and not necessarily those those, you know, diamond in the rough, because I may not have been that. Right. So when he's talking about the ads, even for those who create on YouTube, right, they have this whole submit rankings for your ads, and one of them is inappropriate language, you will, you will not get any ads or only a certain amount of ads, if you are cursing. Main reason why even though we have a lot of content that has cursing in it, we bleep it out. The reason and understand Moose doesn't curse. I curse. Okay, I absolutely do. I admit that. I'm not trying to change it. But I understand there's kids watching us, right? I understand there's seniors watching us, and all in between. And if we are trying to captivate all audiences, well, not all audiences, but all ages. Right? For legacy purposes, I can't be out here spitting what I would do at, you know, at home or whatever. Because one for the simple fact of what I just said, but two, it will mess up money. It will mess up certain opportunities, whether from an inside standpoint of a content, where we will be limited for ads, right and maybe limited for certain platforms. Right? And also, it's just like, it's, it's a shocker to some, like what he was explaining was like, you say that you're like, oh, in some platforms, some networks don't want that little oh. They don't want that. So he was saying, Yeah, I'm not trying to be the exception. I'm trying to play the game. Like, I'm trying to play the game and I'm not going to curse and anybody who comes on my platform and do these skits is not going to curse, because I'm not messing up my money, because this is too easy. Internet money making literally he also in that same interview, he was like, Yo, I work twice a, twice a week, 10 hours, and I have content for the rest of the week. Right, he drops a video every single day. And if you're, like said he makes $300k a month...
Mostafa Ghonim:
Crazy.
Nicky Saunders:
Its probably more at the at now. Right? But we, when we're making content, and this is not more of like, don't be you if that is part of you, because we've seen successful people curse and just be the way they are. But then you can look at this blueprint of understanding those are some exceptions, or you are going to dominate that audience. And from a wider crossover standpoint, it may not be possible. So even to piggyback off of last week's episode with who can you communicate to even that type of language is a form of communication. Cuz if you can't communicate with certain audience, and it is, you know, kind of flagged to like, yo, your content is inappropriate for this person, or for this culture or for this, like, that's, now you've slimmed down your audience and your reach. So he's very smart. Like, I could still be this kind of hood, street dude, kind of country guy. I don't have to curse. And that's going to get me the money that I want. The other thing that I like, from from the beginning, beginning is like, the whole treating it like a business and now it's a business. Right? And just having that kind of mindset at first, who would have thought creating funny videos, just different skits would become a business. Right? And it is, and that's just anything, we can make anything nowadays a business. Right? So what are you? How do I put this? What is your mindset with what you're putting energy to? Is it just something that you're doing and you make money once in a while? Like that's how you're treating some of your, you know, your digital products, your physical products, you know, is this cool? I make money them or is it? Yo I'm going to treat this like a business. And I'm telling you last go back to last week I'm going to re listen to last week because that Eminem mindset right with Okay, we're gonna work hard on these hours, this that and the third and mixing it with this kind of mindset of Yo, what you're doing is a business. You got to treat it like a business so it can become a business.
Mostafa Ghonim:
I'm not gonna lie. That's a major key. That's a major key.
Nicky Saunders:
Those two combined is is crazy. Those two combined is crazy, but I just wanted to to highlight him and highlight that part. Because we're, we're looking at this day and age of business. Like, okay, we've gone through actors, we've gone through athletes, we've gone through comedian with Kevin Hart, but the traditional comedian way we've gone through music artists, we've gone through all these things, but we're, we didn't touch the literal literally the digital entrepreneurs of today. Right. And he, right now is an example of how you are making money on social media, right, how you're making a pure living, from turning on a camera and showing your gift and it's not baby money. That's a month. So what? Hold on where's the calculator? You already did it?
Mostafa Ghonim:
Three six a year. Yeah.
Nicky Saunders:
Three. I don't know for the people in the back three six what?
Mostafa Ghonim:
$3.6 million a year.
Nicky Saunders:
The crazy thing is he also said in that same interview before COVID he would do the stand up. He'll make a million. Right? Then the pandemic hit. And he's making what you said.
Mostafa Ghonim:
Wow. So he's getting more to do less.
Nicky Saunders:
Mm hmm. I'm gonna suggest people to turn on that camera or document something or post more make it into a series. Like even in my head I'm like, Yo, what can I even though I drop content every single day I'm like, Yo, what series now thinking series,
Mostafa Ghonim:
Episodic, yeah.
Nicky Saunders:
Right what episodic content can I drop that people are going to look forward to every single day that will get views that will get attraction things like that? I'm like that that right there. I dropped a video every single day. I got Facebook called him.
Mostafa Ghonim:
It's crazy. Once you once you just unlock one door. Yeah the rest of the calls come right after it. Oftentimes its one just one like you just just one its a wrap from there.
Nicky Saunders:
Listen, we have one more lesson but we got to make it for the after show. We got to make it for the after show. We got one more. I'll give you a hint it has to do with Charlemagne the god. So it was an interesting perspective, interesting side that I feel like we should talk about. And I'll give another hint just has to do with celebrating just has to do with celebrating. So we'll talk about in the after show. Do me a favor. Follow us everywhere at Nicky and Moose. Since I mentioned the after show and if you're listening you don't know what that is. All Access Squad on Apple Podcasts only for Apple Podcasts you get exclusive audio from us, which is the after show. Right? Which gives you the thoughts, the strategies some more tangible stuff based off what we say from the episodes pretty much literally that's why it's called the after show and shout out to Inky who does the intro. Light little name drop.
Mostafa Ghonim:
No flex. No flex. Don't make me flex.
Nicky Saunders:
Yes Inky Johnson did the intro. So yeah, go check out all access squad on Apple Podcast only. Try it out for free for three days. Okay. Listen to the episodes that are already there. You won't miss anything is a whole vibe every week. A new one drops so we drop every Tuesday the regular podcast, and Wednesday nightthe after show comes out so go check that out. Moose, final words.
Mostafa Ghonim:
Yeah, man. I mean, this is something that we talk about often. But despite of how often we talk about it, it's still the thing that we hear other people say they struggle with the most and it's this concept of consistency. Right so so to you out there who struggling with consistency number one, I feel you. But number two, I'll bring back a famous quote right if you're tired of starting over, stop giving up
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