Episode 19 - The Journey Of Owning Your Content With Quincy Harris

Nicky Saunders: 0:00

What's poppin'? What's poppin'? What's poppin'? Welcome Nicky and Moose! I'm Nicky! That's Moose! What's up Moose?

Mostafa Ghonim: 0:08

What up y'all?

Nicky Saunders: 0:09

And listen, we have, if you were a day one, you've probably seen this man on our show. But if you are a day, I don't know 744, you may not have seen him just yet. But he made a huge transition to literally interviewing everybody in the world for somebody else, to now having his own podcast, it seems like he's still interviewing the world, but it's more ownership for himself. I call him the king of Philly because he knows everybody. Right? But Moose, how do you feel about who we are going to be talking to?

Mostafa Ghonim: 0:55

Some of the best stories? I'm talking about that that episode we did on the Facebook show, I'm talking about some really dope stories of people that we grew up idolizing. So to have those stories live on direct from the man, that's pretty dope.

Nicky Saunders: 1:08

Listen, we're talking about Q. Quincy Harris. But let's get into this intro.

Jaymie Jordan: 1:20

Two kids from Queens, cut from a different cloth. Now joining forces helping you to elevate your personal brand. Yeah, I'm talking about Nicky and Moose! Bringing you a never before seen perspective into the mindset, the mentality, the behaviors, the driving force, but more importantly, the stories behind the people and brands that you know and love the most.

Nicky Saunders: 1:49

So you already know, I gotta do the review of the week. All right, I did good last week. Hopefully I could do good this week. But this is a long one, so I'm probably gonna mess it up. This one comes from...that person. And it says, "Class in session. I got put on this show after E.T. coaching calls and Moose talking. I'm glad I did because Nicky is hilarious." Hold on. "Nicky and Moose have very intellectual conversations that stimulate the mind and have a positive influence on your character helping you on your way to success. Thanks again, for what y'all do." Shout out to everybody who leaves us a review. Go leave us a review. We read them all. We appreciate it. We highlight it every week. But let's get into our guest or, for all our listeners, we have just brought in Quincy Harris.

Quincy Harris: 3:06

Thank y'all for being...y'all so patient with me. I just I want to say that publicly. Thank y'all.

Nicky Saunders: 3:11

Listen, his mic is working. For all my YouTube people. You see him very clearly. His bald head is shiny. Ya mean? I see you.

Quincy Harris: 3:24

I'm just I'm just a kid from Queens. You know what I'm saying?

Nicky Saunders: 3:28

Nah! Can't say that. That's a lie. That's a lie.

Quincy Harris: 3:32

That intro... y'all intro was fire. That's...man. That's hard.

Nicky Saunders: 3:38

We're just trying to catch up to you. That's all we trying to do. We trying to catch up to you. But look for the two people that weren't a day one and who don't know who you are, which I don't know, who wouldn't, give a quick intro to the people.

Quincy Harris: 3:54

Quincy, Q Deezy, as people call me, Harris. Radio, TV, I've done radio and TV here in Philly, in LA. Left TV to do my own thing and doing podcasts and doing other things in media. I've been doing media since I was 18 years old. I'm now...years old.

Nicky Saunders: 4:16

Wait! Wait!

Mostafa Ghonim: 4:19

I love it!

Quincy Harris: 4:22

I'm not one of those people. I've been doing... I'm 42 now. I just turned 42. I can't believe I'm saying I'm 42. I never thought I would be 42. Like 42? What are you talking about? So since I was 18, so more than half my life I've been doing media whether it's in front of the camera producing, you know, movies, like all types of stuff. So yeah.

Nicky Saunders: 4:43

I love it. I love it. So we're gonna do this show a little bit different okay? We're gonna really have a conversation because what Q has done is a whole transition that needs to really be broken down from being on radio and a whole TV show, like on Fox and everything, to now like, true ownership of his own content, and there was something that happened recently that we're going to get into as far as Joe Budden and the Patreon situation, what that means about, you know, for content creators. But Moose, what I do want you to do is kind of set the tone of how we're going with this, and we're just gonna go have a conversation.

Mostafa Ghonim: 5:31

Absolutely. Yeah, I mean, I think for a lot of our listeners, man, who are, you know, people still working a nine to five looking to transition into entrepreneurship, people who still have one foot, you know, in both and looking to go full time they're doing it, you know, in the middle of both. So I think this is a great time for us to really have that dialogue, especially if you having made that jump. pretty recent. What would you say last, I don't know, at least 6 months?

Quincy Harris: 5:59

Yeah, yeah. last six months. Yeah, like October. Yep.

Mostafa Ghonim: 6:03

Yeah. So for you haven't made that jump, I think it'll be cool to just kind of start with, you know, just that story, how maybe you would have set yourself up or what you were thinking as, like, you know, what? Screw it. I'm making the jump and going for it. You know, I think that would be a great place to start and get the dialogue rolling around that.

Quincy Harris: 6:22

Yeah, I think I mean, for me, I've always felt like, like, I've always worked for somebody, and I've always felt like I was fighting to put my ideas out. Right? And whether that's like, yo, I think this song is a hit song in radio. It's like, well, we got to wait until it's a hit song, right? Until everybody else is playing it right? And, you know, doing, you know, things in LA, you know, sometimes it was you, you know, I was working under a system. So it was like, I would do stuff on my own, but didn't have the, you know, the engine behind me to really, like, propel my independent things that I was doing. Then coming back to Philly, doing radio, it was it was the same thing. I kept hitting my head. Everywhere I went like y'all I want to do this, what y'all think? And it was like, yeah, and then I knew I was right. And then I will get proven right every time. So with this last one, I was working at the TV station. I've been at the TV station, since like, 2013. And then they offered me my own TV show in 2016. And then 2020 came and of course 2020 was a crazy time. And I started doing my show from home. So you know, I had little equipment because again, it was a lot of things that I would do outside of the television station like yo, hey, guys, I need a camera, a camera, man. And maybe like, camera person. Hey, can I get a camera person for this? No, we gotta we gotta go take this three alarm fire. Alright, so what I will do is I have my own camera. Okay, I might have to do two interviews. Hey, Nicky...what mic should I get? Nicky like, no, you need to get the $3,000 mic. I'm like...

Nicky Saunders: 8:00

Yo! No! What we're not going to do...I didn't tell you to get the $3,000 one. What I did do is tell you get like probably a $700 - $800 setup and say you got it because you did. So no, we're not gonna paint this narrative that I get you the $3,000 one.

Quincy Harris: 8:23

You right.

Nicky Saunders: 8:24

It worked out didn't it? It worked out.

Quincy Harris: 8:26

It definitely definitely worked out. And so I'm getting all this equipment and I'm doing this stuff for my job. And I'm like, I'm doing I'm doing...I know all the artists. I know all the celebrities, I'm going to the celebrities I'm getting in. I'm going to go interview Sting, I'm doing all this different stuff and all I looked at was, from a distribution model was, trying to compare it to like music, right? Like back in the day, Koch Records, was a record company in New York, that it was almost like people used to call it like the graveyard for for rappers. Like once they got off their big independent, I mean big major label deal, they would go to Koch, and they would work them independently and what Koch Recrords would do is literally like if you know everybody, and people know you, they'll give you a budget. You go and hustle and get your producers and everything and then they would put out your albums. Cameron, Jim Jones, they made it really successful at Koch Records. So for me, it looked, from a distribution model, I was like, I don't really need them to do what I'm doing. And I've always been a person knowing I understood what drive the engine. The engine in any media company is sponsorship. Right? And I had really great relationships with sponsors, right? So I always knew that I'll never forget somebody told me they said content is, I mean it's a little bit different now, but content is the thing in between commercials not the other way around. Meaning if these if these people don't sponsor our show, we won't be here, right? So I always had great relationships with sponsors. Like, I will go above and beyond for sponsors, if I had to do a two hour appearance, I made sure I come 15 minutes early, I may say 30 minutes later, I'm giving them ideas about, you know, their brand, or their product. So I already understood that. So what the TV station did for me was like, I'm like, I'm doing everything. Like, y'all editing, y'all giving me the commercial. But like, if I want to get a really hot artist or really hot celebrity on my show, I gotta go get them. I gotta go get I'm paying the Uber forum. I'm doing all this stuff. I'm paying for the makeup like. So I looked at it like, and I always looked at the numbers of sponsorship like, hold up. Y'all got paid that? And you got to remember, my show for the TV station was more. This is the first time they did it. Because they were a news station. So my show was the guinea pig show. Like, let's get to a show and see what what happens. And then the success of my show, they were like, let's do another show. And then they gave another guy another show. They gave him more resources. We'll talk about that at another time. But I was like, so I'm looking at the sponsors. I'm looking at how much money they make. And they will talk to me like, Oh, yeah, we make this much money off the sponsor. I'm like, What? So now I'm start counting up the sponsors. I'm like...I'm looking at my paycheck. And I'm like, No, and there's no and I'll never forget, I'll take it back to E.T., I cannot hand down to my sons a job, or props, or respect. Like, you mean, I loved your dad, like I get it, like our name, our last name. And our and our who we are means a lot. But if if I'm dead broke, I can't give my interviews to my kids. So I was like, Man, it's just time to go. I just I was like, No, I did the math. I'm like, I have a really big name here in Philly. People know me, I've poured equity into a lot of people and a lot of companies. Why not go on my own and get...if I if they're paying me this much, I know I can make 10 times that on my own.

Nicky Saunders: 12:25

Wait! Wait! So...you got something Moose?

Mostafa Ghonim: 12:27

I'm sorry. I just wanted to double down real quick if you don't mind, Nicks.

Nicky Saunders: 12:31

Go ahead.

Mostafa Ghonim: 12:31

Q, what was he what was the first thing you did after like you bounced ou ? Like, what was that first move Because I think also and I keep just thinking about the listen rs because I know there's so ebody out there who is you kno , in a similar role, maybe not oming off of a TV show, per e, but still between opportunit es can go all in on their own hing. And they're like, man, but which move do i do first? ike do I go for the content? Do go for the sponsor? Wha did you do first?

Quincy Harris: 13:00

Yeah, I'm...so one, the first thing I did well, I've always worked on other things outside of what I was doing, right. And I had, I have another situation with a another show that I'm pitching. But I have ownership in this show. So that was the first thing was like, Okay, if I'm going to leave, I'm going to make sure that the next thing I do, if it's going to be on a big network or not, is ownership. So the first thing I did was make sure I have ownership in this other project that I'm working on. Right? The second thing I did was, me and my boy Fuzzy, he comes to, man I've known Fuzz for 20 years, he's like, yo, we should start a podcast. So before we even crack the mic turned on anything, we formed a company, right? So we formed a company and now we have a company for our podcast. I only want to like say a podcast because we're doing content right? Yo I'm like this can turn into Nicky and Moose the Conference... every any and everything Nicky and Moose. But like everything you can think of. Like we say podcast, but podcast only means audio. So we formed a company. So that was the first thing we did before we even did an Instagram Live, before we cracked open a mic. It was all about ownership. So those are the those are first two things, was talking to my lawyer on these next projects that I was working on. And then it was I knew what I was doing with, because I made other things hot, right? I made artists hot, I made stores hot. It was like okay, this is what we got to do for the next five, six weeks. Let's just show let's just proof of concept. And then while we're doing proof of concept, it's like linking into the sponsors that I've already had relationships with. And that that would be the the next roll out of of what we're doing just on that podcast side or content side with Fuzz that I'm doing. So...

Nicky Saunders: 14:54

That's so good. This is so good. I want to I want to go back a little bit just because, I want to go back to the very beginning of COVID, where like that aha moment was like, Yo, I'm, I'm doing all of this, like, all of this. Like, talk to some of the content creators that like, are learning everything kind of now. But in real life, how does those skills during COVID kind of transfer to what's happening in 2021? And beyond? Like, you, you you got, you know, a whole business from it, but kind of just make it super plain like, yo, literally, I learned this and that, and yeah, and everything like that.

Quincy Harris: 15:44

Okay, so, for me, it always starts with a No, right? Like, and I just try to tell my sons this all the time, like, go get this. And they be like, Well, that thing was blocking the thing. And I'm like, Ah, no, no, I don't like, I'm gonna be honest, I hope they don't see this anytime soon. I can care less if my kids get straight A's in school. Because that doesn't, that does not make you successful in life. There are going to be obstacles, and you have to understand like, Alright, this obstacle, I need to step over this obstacle. So the first thing was, I worked at the radio station, and at the radio station, it was all about shooting content. So I was like, I had like a digital person. Sometimes he would shoot it, sometimes he wouldn't. That's when I bought a camera. But even before that, I bought my first camera in '07. So I'll always have my camera. So then I would go on YouTube, and I would learn how to edit. So when I worked on Big Boy's show in LA, he wasn't paying me a lot of money like my first year of the contract. I was like, Yo can at least shoot content? I'm want to shoot my own interviews, because this is why I really came to LA. He was like sure do your thing. Purchased the camera. I start shooting, you know, shooting content. Some of that content went viral. Viral back then meant it made it to Worldstar Hip Hop, right? So a couple of my interviews made it to Worldstar. So then they came to me was like, yo, Q, you think you can shoot content for us? Sure. Let's do it. So then I started giving big ideas. That was that was me starting to produce, we started doing content, we started producing. So then I learned how to edit, just a tad bit just enough to get by. So I always had that in the tuck, right? So then I knew when an editor would tell me Oh, it took this long. I'm like you're lying, because I know how long that takes. Right? So now I bought a camera. I know how to edit. Then I had to go from like, okay, I can shoot and I know how to edit a little bit. How do I do audio? So then I have a microphone, XLR cable plug it into my camera at the time. And then I just had steps along the way. Nicky, how do I get I see you with the wireless thing. What's going on? What's E doing? I'm asking a bunch of questions. I'm getting the the setup. So when the beginning of COVID hit, when I hit, before that when I go to the TV station. Hey, guys, can I get a camera for the Bad Boy reunion? Diddy's gonna be here. What time is that gonna be? 10 o'clock.

Oh, we can only do 10 to 10: 18:13

30. I know anything with rappers means it's going to be longer than that. So I had my own camera. I had my camera guy. Sometimes camera people are a little unreliable. So now I got my own setup. And now I don't need anybody. I got my cameras. I got my mics. I got everything. So in the beginning of COVID, they had to put my show on hold. And I'm sitting here like how can I, again another no, Q we got put your show on hold. I'm like how can I do this on my own? I know I have Adobe, you know, and I may be talking a little technical for people that's watching. I have Adobe Premiere or Adobe Suite, which cost me $50 a month, which I write off on my taxes because I use it for work. So I got Adobe Suite. I got a camera. I have my mics. Hmm. I got E-Camm.

Nicky Saunders: 19:07

Shout out to E-Camm.

Quincy Harris: 19:07

Right and this is life, right? I'm like, Okay, how do you put this together? I'm like, Yo, I called my boss at the time. I was like, Look, I can do this on my own. I can shoot it at home. You can shoot at your house? And the reason why he was shocked was because I never did things for credit. Because if it was somebody else there, I'm just being real. I'm just talking about haters and all that stuff. It was somebody else there that was taking the credit for a lot of things. And I never was like, Look guys, this what I did, because it was it was never...my job was never about them. I'm gonna do a great job. And result of me doing a great job for me, y'all gonna get the best product because I'm not doing it for y'all. You could do yeah, you could do this? You can do this? Yeah. Okay, we're gonna send you over the elements. I'm gonna just see one show. Let's see what you can do. It needs to be 21 minutes and 15 seconds. Perfect. Got it. Edit the joint up. I know my show. Have my co host my producer on E-Camm. Alright, thank you. Boom. Edit it up. 21:15 Here you go. He called me back. Oh my god, I didn't know what's gonna look like this. Yeah, cuz you, um, I don't know what y'all thought. And I did I did 39 shows from home. Um, so I shot the show. I edited the show, I produced the show, I booked talent for the show. I did everything for the show. 39 shows from home. And I think when I did 30, my 35th episode, they were like, Hey, we got put your show on hold. But we got another idea for you. And I was like, Yo, I gave everything for these people. I gave everything for this job. Um, I know what to do. It's just time to go. And I never forget before they call me this summer I told my wife I was I have an intuition. I was like, I don't think I'm going back. She's like, really? Ibwas like Yeah, I think I think I'm done. Yeah, I think I'm done. And I'll never forget, you know, 2020 was crazy. Again, approaching my 42nd birthday. I'm like, Yo, I can't believe in 42 When are you going jump? And this summer was the toughest summer because two of my closest friends. You know, both of their dads died in the two, three months span had nothing to do with COVID. You know, I went to more funerals this year, than I've ever been. Right? And I was like, You gonna be out of here one day. So what are you gonna do? And I'll never forget, I was in a hospital with one of my boys family. And I called I called the station. I was like, I'm done. I'm not gonna come back. You're not coming back? What? Are you sure? Yeah I'm sure. They called me like four or five times. That's how I knew I was earning a lot of money for them. Because if I didn't earn a lot of money for them, they would be like All right, bye. See you later. And I never forget before I called them, I called E.T. I was like, Yo, man. I'm about to call them tell them like, I'm like what you think? And I always you know, I love... I knew what I knew what I had to do. But I love having, you know, somebody like E.T. who's a, you know, mentor to all of us and being able to talk to him, he was like dude, Like, you gotta just fly man. Like, you got it. You got it in you. You know what you got. I know what you got. You got fly. And I left. And I called them and I told them I wasn't coming back. And it was like, I was like, yeah, and for I'm not gonna say for six weeks, I wanna say five to six weeks it was tough. Because it was a mourning process. Because for so long, I wanted to be a television star. Right. And that was my dream since I was 12 years old. Right? So letting go letting go of that dream. Even though I left I had I had like a mourning process where I was like, I was like, I was trying to get it together like, Man, this was my dream, though. I thought it was gonna look like this. And it was a process and I was like, alright you gonna shake out of this now. And then that's when I did those, you know, I was already working on this one deal for the show. And I was like ownership. And then other deal with me and Fuzz was like, Alright, let's form a company first. And sometimes you gotta let go how you think your dream is gonna look. Now? I was, I was like, wow, yeah. And it felt weird for me putting out content and you know, I'll give it to Nicky. Because Nicky, she be like, yo, Q you got some dope stuff. Why aren't you letting yourself go, man? Let it go! Let it go! I was like i know. And then I felt...That's what sometimes a job will do for you, or jobs or titles will do for you. You get so wrapped up in being this person from that thing. That when you me when I let go of that thing. It was so weird, because I'm like, hey, it's just me. And I knew people know me and people have relationships from me. But it's different saying it and then doing it. It's very different. And I needed like five or six weeks to like, shake it off and get it get it together.

Nicky Saunders: 24:16

Real quick plug. He mentioned E-Camm. We're using E-Camm. If you want a 14 day trial with E-Camm go to nickyandmoose.com/ecamm. Two M's. Okay? Two M's. Anyways, go ahead Moose. Like the commercials ya mean?

Mostafa Ghonim: 24:33

Yeah, just a little quick commercial break, you know? Producing the show. But man, that's deep. But Q you said sometimes you gotta let go of how you thought your dream was gonna look. Man that's that's a that's that's a big piece because I guess what you're trying to say is like people hang on to an image of what they thought it was going to be. And then they keep maybe even staying in the same rabbit hole just chasing that same, you know, route and not necessarily getting somewhere right? And I'm dialoguing. Yeah,

Quincy Harris: 25:03

No. I mean, no. Yes. I mean, 1,000% because, you know, before, you know, again, I watched Arsenio Hall when I was 12. I was like, I want to do that. What he's doing right there. Right? And, yeah, I could still do it. But now, TVs switching like, I got three TVs in my house. We watch Family Feud, as a bonding, you know, you know, hour hour and a half a Family Feud tonight if we have time, but like TV's not really on in our house. And if you can look at the kids or you look at the youth, they don't watch TV. Like I used to have to turn I used to have to call the radio station, like, please can y'all play my song, please. You can turn on YouTube now. So you already know, it's a dying brand. And I'm not disrespecting anybody who's doing TV. I'm not disrespecting anyone who's doing radio. But it is shifting. And newsflash, iHeart Media owns radio stations, but they also have a big podcasting department that should tell you something and everything they told you to well told us on the radio is talk short and sweet. And get out of there. And now, you could talk for two hours with one of your best friends and just talk about whatever. And this is the kind of content people want. So, um, yeah, that's I mean, that was the part I had to kind of let go like, yo, you don't have to be on like I could have. Listen, if I have 50,000 people that genuinely ride for me, I'll be the 50 if I got 10,000 people that genuinely ride for me, and give me or my company $5 a month. That's a real business. That's like, huge, huge. So I mean, that's, you know, that's what I'm talking about. You just got to, you know, go with the times and see what's going on. And I foresee, like, I've seen the ratings on television go down every year. Like the things that people... Oh, we got a point whatever we got a one share, or it's like, people aren't turning tuning in like that. You know, so what's what happened in 20 years, when the kids that are never that grew up on YouTube, you think they're gonna just all of a sudden grow up and be like, no, I need to sit down and watch television? No.

Nicky Saunders: 27:24

That's a good point. That is a good point.

Mostafa Ghonim: 27:26

Yeah, I've never even thought about that. That's real.

Nicky Saunders: 27:30

How is it different from radio and TV? to podcast? Like, to your own content? Like, I know, there's some maybe similar traits, but how you're doing it? Like, what is the what is the difference?

Quincy Harris: 27:50

I mean, for me, now, I don't have to, I don't have to sell anybody. Like if I want to me and Fuzz want to do an interview, we just do it. I could just do it. I have the freedom to just do it. And, you know, what radio and television have taught me is the art of right? The art of talking to people the art of listening the art of talking, making sure your, your your thoughts are clear. But I'm free. I can literally like I know, I'm still policing myself like, Fuzz sometimes like, yo, we should interview... I'm like hold fam fam. I do a lot of other things with a lot of other people. I can't, you know, just relax sometimes, right? But I'm free. I'm free to I can talk to somebody for an hour, right? And then we can take that interview, I can give it, I can put the whole thing on YouTube, we can repurpose it, put it on Twitch, right and start playing clips. I can put it on YouTube Live. We can post it on Instagram, you can put it on Facebook, you can do a Facebook Live Show, so you can repurpose the content so much more on TV. It was just like you did the show. And you gotta remember when you're doing TV sometimes and you don't have a digital part digital department that's not doing they're doing news and then I thinking about repurposing your clips as like funny clips on an Instagram page funny clips to go onto YouTube or Facebook. Sometimes you miss the boat and you guys know this. People may watch your stuff live, but it lives on you know? Like on demand is what we what we do people don't have to catch your thing live. The same thing with radio like radio, you know when I was doing radio was like they just didn't get it. I was like yo take this, repurpose it have...like I was trying to pay for my own digital team when I was doing radio last time I was doing radio. I'm like if I'm gonna pay for this stuff I can do it on my own only thing you're getting are the sponsors.

Nicky Saunders: 29:51

That's crazy. That's crazy.

Quincy Harris: 29:53

I can get a sponsor. I ain't tripping of of that.

Nicky Saunders: 29:55

But, but is it better connections, and I already know this answer, but is it better connections when you were working with the radio and TV shows than just doing it on your own because I mean, I want you to name some of them, right? Who you've done on your own. But is is there a big difference? Or have you really leveraged the connections that you've done prior to so it's almost even easier now?

Quincy Harris: 30:25

Yeah, so I will tell you this, um, Fuzz knows, Fuzz lives in LA, Fuzz knows everybody. Right? So it's literally like me and him talking and then I know my people, right? So we literally are putting our phone books together. And let's say all right, dawg, what you want to do? Alright this is a real thing. We're sitting there talking. And this is right before the Georgia Senate race. The run off race, right? And he's, I'm like, yo, dawg, we got, literally I'm sitting right here. I'm like, dawg, we have to get somebody from Georgia. Who should we get? So we start kicking off names. I'm like, it'd be kind of cool to get Stacey Abrams, but I don't think we can get her you know, the day before the election. I know she's busy, right? So we started... I'm like Luda? Who you thinking? He's like, Yo, what about JD? I might hit him up. He's like alright I'm about to call him. So he calls, while he's calling JD I'm looking on my phone. Right? I'm looking on my phone on Instagram. Just doo doo doo doo doo. I'm like, yo, dawg. JD is in the car. He's about to go vote. So I'm like, He's like, man, he ain't pick up. I'm like look. I say Yo, JD, me and Fuzz looking for you. Yo. 10 minutes later, he gets JD on the phone. Yo. JD say be ready in 10 minutes. So it was another 10 mins I'm like oh snap. I don't even know what I had on. Ran upstairs, put the hoodie on, we do the interview just like that. And that's the connections like we've had for so long. But now we just we're doing it for ourselves. And when you do it for TV, you have to kind of like can y'all call in at 11? Can y'all call in at? Can you do? You have to have two phones and a ISDN line like all that stuff man please. We runnin and gunning. And you know how artists are sometimes they up at 10, sometimes they up at 2am sometimes you know? It doesn't it just, we can do it any... these are relationships we've had for more than half our life. Fuzz started when he was a teen. I started when I was a teen. So it's just like literally who we want to get. Like we've interviewed on our own Timbaland, Jermaine Dupri, Quest Love, Skillz the day he dropped the, on New Year's Day, The Wrap Up, T-Pain. We just... 9th Wonder who gonna drop in a couple of days. 9th Wonder and we interview, because J Dilla, it's Dilla Day coming up. So we interviewed J. Dilla's mom and 9th Wonder together.

Nicky Saunders: 32:57

Oh, wow.

Quincy Harris: 32:58

Yeah, we have Bri Steve's who's from Philly. Her record label reached out. So now people are looking like Yo, can you? Can you like, can you do this interview for you know what I mean? Yeah.

Mostafa Ghonim: 33:13

That's what's up. Hey, you know, it's funny. We talked about the we talked about the Verzuz model quite a few times on on the show. And, you know, you mentioned Timbaland. So actually someone like yourself coming from the music and radio station, what's your take on the whole Verzuz battle? Like, what do you what do you think of it? Especially for what, you know, what we know, a battle was and what they've done just, you know, throughout this time? What, what's your take on that?

Quincy Harris: 33:42

Nah I think it's amazing, right? The only thing you have to see live is sporting events. And I'm not even gonna say basketball, right? Like you got to, you have to see football live because it only happens once a week, right? And it's really like, you lose three games in a row, it's a problem. So it's like sporting events. And now it's like Verzuz right? Because Verzuz has become such... It doesn't even matter if Keyshia Cole comes on or not right? We've had fun. She didn't come. She wasn't here. She had a problem right?

Nicky Saunders: 34:10

It's a whole spectacular event just off the the memes and the non arrivals.

Quincy Harris: 34:17

It becomes it becomes like boxing. So I think what they've been able to do, not only not only for them, they've been able to give people who we may have not said hey, we you know, we may have not. It makes it, I'm trying to watch my words, it makes people, if they're the artist, man, you're out, you're back in the spotlight. You're getting, you know, most of them, over a million views on... that's bigger than television shows right? Two, people starting to stream your content instantly. Three, you have to think that in 2022 this is going to be a tour. Right like who wouldn't want to see Brandy and Monica going back and forth when the world opens back up? Who wouldn't want to see live Keyshia Cole and Ashanti doing their thing? Like that's, now Now I'm not saying Keyshia Cole and Ashanti wouldn't do stadiums, but that may be your local arena to see them. Or they may be on a packaged tour. You know, if they have merchandise. Like this is, it's a brilliant thing that Swizz and Timbaland, you know, you know, they've developed you know, over the last, I mean, think about it hasn't been a year yet. This has been, I mean, this is amazing. And it shows you that creativity and talent will always trump anything. It doesn't matter where it is. Creativity and talent will trump any and everything. I don't care if you're singing on your cell phone. I don't care if you have an HD DSLR camera, doesn't matter. It does not matter. This is what this is showing us. You just have to be creative. Yeah.

Nicky Saunders: 35:58

What is your favorite battle before I get into mine?

Quincy Harris: 36:01

Oh my gosh, Jeezy and Gucci Mane! I thought somebody was gonna die! I didn't know what was going on. It was too much. Like because knowing what really went on with those two...And if you know Jeezy, like Jeezy he's changing his his, you know, his image and he's more polished now. Yeah. Y'all do some research. Like that was crazy. So even for them to be in the same room was crazy. And then even how Jeezy lined him up talking you know he had the speech and he was like, two things for certain, one thing for sure, I'm the realest... oh my goodness. That took me back to '05. Come on, man.

Nicky Saunders: 36:54

I ain't mad at that. I would I would definitely have to say of the ladies, Brandy and Monica just because of the pettiness. Like I don't know if that's really fixed. It was too many like stabs, like, indirectly. And it was weird. It was just weird. I, I don't see them on tour. But, um, anyways, so the, what is what, with the podcast and what you and Fuzz is creating, what is the goal? Because, like, now you're saying people are reaching out and I can almost think that it would feel more like on your radio days, like they got to come to you when they're about to drop something. They got to come to you when they're trying to promote. So like, what is the goal for this one?

Quincy Harris: 37:57

Yeah, that's great. I'm glad you said that. Because I become one of these like futurists, like oh my gosh, oh my gosh, I want to get this person podcast. I want to do that with them. And then I want to do this. Like you should have saw me yesterday, I was like losing my mind. Right? So for this one, it's literally one. I want us to be, I want to show 2 black men who are in their 40s, being vulnerable about any and everything right? Yes, we come from hip hop. And you know, it's about this, but being vulnerable. Because the problem I like I see with a lot of my friends, right? It's like, I have friends now. Like, 50 years old, 45 years old, they got an issue. I'm like, Can y'all talk? Can y'all talk? Can y'all just talk? Like somebody calling me, I'm like dawg, I feel like I'm in high school. Just talk. Man. I can't believe he... just talk. Right? So I think I want to I want to show, we want, I know my part, we want to show black men being very vulnerable and open. And using music, hip hop,, and public, you know, and current events as a backdrop for us to be vulnerable. That's that's the number one thing. The second thing from that is, you don't see a lot of us... I'll never forget somebody clowned Chamillionaire. Right? And they was like, I forget he was at like a Golden State Warriors game on the floor. They was like, Ha, how Chamillionaire, how's he getting on the floor? Is he cleaning up? And he was like, Hey, guys, I'm glad you guys asked. I'm here because I can afford the seats. That's one. Two, I'm invested in tech and this is what I'm doing. And I'm a tech investor. So I was just, you know, coming here to the game after I had like a tech meeting. He said, I'm paraphrasing what he said. But I think us as coming from hip hop, we have, hip hop has influenced the world. Anytime you want to get hot, you come to hip hop. Anytime you want to promote something, we do it for free. Right? So I want to make sure that we get into the world of tech and I want to make sure that we, we become a hub for breaking tech entrepreneurs as well. And then with that, I want to also be able to, I want to, like, I want to get in on the ground floor of of a Clubhouse. You know cuz it's not ever gonna end. Like it's gonna be another one. I want to get on the ground floor of like, just like how I told y'all before when I was on, before, like, how the relationships... Oh, I knew Kanye. Man, me and E , I've known E. I met E seven years ago, I understood what that was, like, I want to understand what other things are in other sectors, and bring that to the forefront.

Nicky Saunders: 40:54

Moose, I'm going to steal something, I'm gonna steal something real quick. So you mentioned Clubhouse. So I struggle with this, the whole investing and them not letting you know, black creators invest and everything like that. And that's been kind of rumbling and things when supposedly, and not saying it's not true, but anytime that minorities, I'm not even gonna say black people, just minorities, jump on an app, it blows up. Right? We saw what Master P said about it. What is your take as far as Okay, another another app, now we're talking about Clubhouse. It's poppin. Everybody's talking about it. Your boy is going crazy at one point. You were active on it, Wallo was active. Like, what is your take, as far as you know, the black community jumping on Clubhouse and the investing part about it? Like, and which will lead into like how you know how important it is to own our content. But what is

Quincy Harris: 42:07

I think one you know we talk about investing, your take on it? right? Like luckily, I have a best friend who he owns a wealth management firm. So sometimes it's a lot of stuff, I don't know, because this is impossible. Y'all know, it's impossible just to even sometimes even get this camera and y'all should have saw me like I was for 25, 28 minutes, I was trying to get my stuff together. And usually I'm good on getting my stuff together. So it's hard for me being a creative and trying to be a creative inside of my own business to then say, Okay, I'm going to learn, because it's out there, right? I'm gonna learn about Bitcoin, I'm gonna learn about this, I'm gonna learn about that. So I have people around me, so my boy, Lamont Brown, I gotta plug him.He has an investment firm called Odyssey Capital. So he tells me about how the, we have to understand like how this stuff works. So, it's a first round of investing. The way you find out about this is you do X, Y, and Z. So I think before, because it's cool to just say, Oh, we need to invest and it's just like, it's, it's such, it's such a top, it's such an icing on the cake when you when you talk about this stuff, but you have to have people that really understand what you're getting into, before you get into it. That's one, right? So that's knowledge. And if you want to be that person like you, you got to take years and years of of time where you got to meet up with somebody or link up with people that understand what that means. Right? Um, so number two, I do think you have to either have ownership in something on the app, or you gotta be selling something we have to. And I'm not saying you have to you have to go on the app and say, Hey, man, buy my phone for $19.99. I'm not saying that. But like, you have to go on these apps with a with a clear vision of why you're on these apps. So I think and that's investing because I see, Nicky, I see you on there. Like that's coming back. Like you being on there. You may not be investing, but you're investing in yourself, because that's where everybody is. So it's like Nicky's on here. I don't even know how many followers you... Like, I know you up there, right?

Nicky Saunders: 44:21

20.5...lightwork.

Quincy Harris: 44:29

But you but you're but it's all driving back to your business. Yeah. Right. But every time I see you on there, it's about adding value. And you adding value to people comes back to you, too comes back to what you guys are doing on the podcast comes back to other things that you have. And that you're setting up down the line. So I just think if you have an opportunity to be on these apps, and you have the time, just make sure that you have a game plan to move it back to some of the stuff that you're owning. Sorry Moose! I had to ask him. He mentioned it. Keyword.

Mostafa Ghonim: 45:05

Yeah, yeah, no, it's a good it's a good point because actually on our on our live show, I don't know if it was last week or the week before, we talked about why is it that, you know, the minority community doesn't have those opportunities. And one of the main things that we talked about was Yo, just lack of information, you know, again, we're aware of, okay, you have to be an investor. But to your point Q that how how to get in that AC, you know, you know, that VC funding, whatever it is, I don't know that we are that well aware or equipped to go into those, right? Because you can even have the money. But do you have the relational capital with somebody who's going to go to you and say, Hey, have this opportunity, I think this might be the next one. We want you in on this. So it's a different type of both relational and informational capital that I think is interesting. But now that we're kind of all in, you know, the content space, and podcasting, and all this stuff. One of the things that we briefly discussed before got we got on, and I'm sure Nicky, you can add some context to this piece as well. But what just happened recently with Joe Budden, and jumping on Patreon? You know I think you said you you spent some time really thinking on that as well. So, yeah, give us your thoughts on that. Nicks, feel free to add, you know, some more context to it as well for those who are listening in. I think this would be good.

Quincy Harris: 46:24

No, I think with Joe man, I think what they're doing over, you know, at his network and what he's doing man, it's amazing. It is amazing. I you know, I've met Joe a couple of times, but, you know, I'm just amazed at his transition, right? That's number one. Number two. You guys know, being a great creator, it becomes a time where it's like, Alright, I I'm doing this for y'all Can y'all can pay me? Can y'all just give me a little something. Right? And sometimes that feels weird. And it sometimes hurts the relationship with you and your, you know, your I don't like to say fans, with your community. Right? And with Joe Budden, going over to Patreon. It's almost like, the reason why I like Twitch, Twitch is a platform. It was basically about gamers, right. And gamers. When you're gaming. People pay for subscriptions $5 a month. Like you see T- Pain is on there. We talked...that's why I really wanted to talk to T-Pain.

Nicky Saunders: 47:28

Yeah he's heavy on there.

Quincy Harris: 47:32

T-Pain was giving out like Yo, dude you need this kind of computer. You got to do this. This what's going on? And he was like, Yo, I'm I streamed like 20 times a month. I have sponsors... So he's breaking down the business of it. Right? T Grizzly is on there. Soulja Boy is on there. Snoop Dogg is on there. I'm like, oh, but what Twitch is, it's a community where you know that you have, you're here, and you're expected to give me money as a creator, because any other platform is really not based on that. Twitter is like, your opinion real quick and you go back and forth with people. Instagram is like, I'm giving you content. Hey, right? And then Facebook is the same thing, kinda, but it's like people more engagement on Facebook. But with Joe saying, Look, I'm still relevant. And I'm hot, like I was telling you about what they did with Koch Records. Like how, how how Cameron, and Jim Jones went over there. And it was making a lot of money and it made it it made it cool for people, to go over there. So I think what Joe is doing, he's making it cool for the audience to say, Hey, I got $100 a month, I'm gonna cut my cable, because people about to cut the cable like totally right? I'm gonna cut my cable. Um, we're gonna band together, and I'm gonna get Youtube TV or another streaming, whatever, right? And it costs me $70 a month or cost me $100 a month, I got five people with me, y'all gonna give me $20 a month. So now my cable only cost me $20 a month, right? Then I believe people are going to have another pot for discretionary income for people that they really like. And let's say that's $100. Right? Now, let's say they give $5 to Joe Budden, say they give another $20 to Netflix, they give ... So now you'll be able to say I have content, I'm adding value to your life. Subscribe to my community and people will be more apt to do that. I think in the next 5 to 10 years, we're going to see the decline in what we see on television. Or you may see television tried to do this model. I mean, you can see it with like the different apps and they try to like, you know, commercial you to death. But that's where that's where it's gonna be and you're going to see billions of people making income? Like, it's like being a YouTuber or being having your own community people going like, like you're gonna, you're gonna see in the future, people run up to Nicky and Moose and people like, Oh, can I get a picture? And somebody is gonna be there, like, Who is that? Nicky and Moose, you don't know? They do this. And they gonna be like oh let me check them out. That's how I was gonna be. Everybody's gonna have their community, and you're gonna be able to live off of your community. So I think with Joe Budden doing that, it's, it's opening up the audience and training the audience saying, I'm a creator, you should give me your money.

Nicky Saunders: 50:42

That is real, that. I agree with that, to an extent, right? And, and what I mean by that is, if we've seen the movement of Joe, and like, the whole full ownership, kind of vibe, like, when he went to Spotify, in thoughts of, I'm gonna get data, and I'm gonna have this exclusive deal. Partnering with them was cool, right? So then he got off, he's like, yo, they're not giving me my worth. I'm doing it on my own. Everything like that. And now he partners with Patreon, right? Which, for those people who don't know what that is, it is a platform where, like, if we have this podcast, we would do like extra bonus content and give you exclusivity and all that great stuff. And there's different tiers, right? Um, but I was almost confused, because I was like, I thought he would actually create something like that on his own. Right? And then looking into it, because I, I believe in community, I believe that people want to support you, as you are a creator. Like because you are adding value to people's lives. And so people do pay for community, people pay for access, and people pay for exclusivity. So he's right on the money with that. He should have had, he should have monetized his community a long time ago. Right? But everything's about timing. But I was very shocked that he partnered with another thing. Now, granted, he has equity on this one. So it kind of makes sense, right? So we've always been big on Nicky and Moose about talking about ownership and equity and don't necessarily do things unless you have a piece of it. Right? But I'm still like, there was so much rant about, I'm doing this on my own, I made a Joe Budden Network, everything like that. But here I am now again, but I'm gonna fight for the creators. So I was a little bit confused by it, but not necessarily like trash. That was a horrible move, anything like that, because I still think from a back end, you still need the machine. And Patreon has that structure. Patreon has that machine that's been proven, with smaller creators and everything like that. But I think we've now the light to it, that's going to only build up the value of Patreon even more, which will bring in more investors, which will give more fuel to this machine that's already working. So I can see from a strategic standpoint, why that happened. I was just a little like, Okay, you've been you've been ranting and raving about ownership and your contents worth everything. And you should have more control of it and everything like that. But now we're giving a cut to Patreon. What's the difference?

Quincy Harris: 54:11

I think? Yeah,

Nicky Saunders: 54:13

Go ahead. Go ahead.

Quincy Harris: 54:14

No, I think, I was listening to his podcast, I think today, and he was saying, it was worth Patreon is worth a billion dollars. And he's on the board. And I think that board, him being on the board may come with him having shares and ownership, right?

Nicky Saunders: 54:32

He does. They were in Clubhouse.

Quincy Harris: 54:34

I get what you're saying. Because he was he was very aggressive and I understand what you're saying. But maybe maybe in a lot of times, right. Like I will tell you guys this. I talk to people or I hear from people that don't understand me leaving the TV station. And they don't believe I left the TV station. They felt that they thought I got fired and I was ashamed. Right, so they can't even understand my moves. Right? Like, oh, you left . Hold on. So you're telling me you left you got three kids bro. You got three kids and a wife. And it's, it's... we're in the middle of a global pandemic, and you're telling me you left your job? That's for real? For real? Like it's TV, bro. Like, you're on television. Like, why would you? I would never. Okay. So, again, I can't even give it. I can't even give my energy to it. Just like alright, cool. You'll see my moves later, maybe you may never see my moves and high five and I'm cool with that, too. But it's, he's smarter than that. That's what I will give him like, he's...it's something

Nicky Saunders: 55:51

No, no, no, no. And this is the thing for else. himself, it's a great move. For his network, it's a great move. I was only a little thrown back from it because as content creators, we look at Joe as almost the voice of content creation, right? He's been doing this for the longest and made, he's been documenting himself. Like, for years, right? To where that started to trend. And it he is one of the godfathers of that hands down, right? But now, you're almost saying, Okay, I got mine. But now I need all the content creators to get on Patreon and give us a cut. That's where I was, like, a little thrown off. But then again, for smaller content creators, we don't necessarily have that machine that Patreon is providing. So it's, I see...

Quincy Harris: 56:57

Hold on, I'm sorry, I gotta stop you. I know I know y'all ain't talking about y'all ain't got no machine Nicky and Moose. I was about to say.

Nicky Saunders: 57:03

Hold on. Hold on. I didn't say me. All right? Wait, no. Okay. So no, no, no, no. Okay. Well, let's, let's break it all the way down. So do I, do we necessarily have the capability to do audio, live stream community polls, Patreon y'all need to pay me after this me breaking all the way down your services. But I'm just saying, Discord services, all in one with tiers like an all in one service at this moment? No. And for that, that is a w y big paycheck to have that m mbership site with all those s rvices in one plus emails b ing sent out plus payment and a l. So that's what I'm saying as a machine for smaller conten creators, that does make sense. I'm just was a little thrown back because, okay, you've now rant and rave, but now yo have equity. So now you're like, this makes all the sense. All content creators need to com to Patreon.

Quincy Harris: 58:15

Yeah, and I think I think a part of his his issue with Spotify was they wouldn't give him, they wouldn't give him shares, right? He said, he turned down, you know, $30 million. But it was more about information, shares, back end knowledge. And this is what Patreon is gonna, you know provide for him.

Nicky Saunders: 58:37

Absolutely. From his standpoint, right, from what he's doing. Best move. I'm just playing devil's advocate. I'm not even saying I disagree with the movement or anything like that. I'm just saying, this is another platform you're telling us to go to. We went to Spotify, that didn't go well. Now you're telling us to go to Patreon.

Quincy Harris: 59:03

Yeah, I get it. You know, for I just like him putting a spotlight or partnering with somebody to say, Hey, I'm a content creator. I know other content creators have used this platform. Y'all have to get used to spending money. And I think it's you know, I think they should I think we that this is how this works. Because sometimes you I mean, you you hear from people. I cut my cable I forget it was like a year ago. I'm like, why am I why am I watching this? I don't even watch it. I don't even watch it and I'm paying for this service and I'm not even using and watching. So I'd rather honestly I'm just being real, like I don't know how much money I pay on all the services I have. But I would give that to Nicky and Moose before I get that. I could cut Starz. Like do I need to watch Power Book Two? I can watch it. I could find somebody else's passcode and give y'all that money. I'm being honest. I can give that money to E.T. I can give that money to Karl. Like, why wouldn't I give it to people that are adding value in my life already? And that's the way we have to kind of like, that's not just us as, as content creators, but us as viewers of content have to like look like, dude, our kids don't watch TV. They play Roblox and they're on YouTube when I let them.

Nicky Saunders: 1:00:34

Yeah. And...

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:00:37

It's a break of... oh go for it Nicks.

Nicky Saunders: 1:00:40

Oh no. Go. Go. You got it? You got it?

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:00:42

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I think it's also a break of like a traditional pattern, you know, like, you think about how many generations have grown up on I don't pay, you know, this person that I watch whatever, I pay the network. And that's just been a pattern. So this is one of these eras, especially after last year, that its like, Okay, get ready to shift the rhythm now, like just the entire, even the funnel, the cycle, all of it is about to switch. So there is a break in our programming on our traditional pattern that I think is about to take place. So I'm to your point, I can see it happening, I'm interested to see it when it's going to be normal. Like I know, I listened to the clip also from from his podcast today, Nicky sent it over where he was talking about, like normalizing certain things. And I think it's a consume, like, this is now a big shift, because we're the creator, or even the business person as well, because I can see it clearly I see more from the business side, right, I see that the content creator is going to produce more content and give you exclusivity. And that's really what you're paying for. So I can understand that the reason for the investment there. So it's now influencing the consumer to believe that that's a feasible investment or that, you know, that makes sense where you could have gotten it for free in the past on YouTube, or wait till it comes out on either DSP, you get early access, you get bonus content, that kind of thing, which I think at some point, it's gonna become relatively, you know, the norm.

Nicky Saunders: 1:02:11

Let me say this. So let me let me get outside of my devil's advocate bag real quick, because that's all I was doing. But what's crazy is, and Moose, you kind of said it is where we're paying now for network. Joe Budden is a network, right. So if you look at that last tier, it is paying for the network side is not just the support of the podcast, you are the for the $25 one, you're paying to get an exclusive show. You're getting, you're paying for extra exclusivity for the extra content on the job button network. Plus, on top of that, the two bonus section plus on top of that behind the scenes. So he's making it normal for whether you're small or big, content creator to be like you can create your own network without paying so much money by joining this particular platform. So I think that is what he's making normal. Don't think that is has to come all out of your pocket now. You could create your own network and put it on Patreon. And they take a certain cut nothing upfront. I think that's genius. That part is genius. I had to get out of my devil's advocate bag. I can get back in it if you need me to.

Quincy Harris: 1:03:38

And also like, before, it was like you have to be in New York, or LA to make it. You don't. Joe Rogan moves to Austin, Texas. Like you don't have to be in these big places we can hop on the internet and again, it just depends you know, if you if you live in, you know where Pennsylvania or you live in, you know, Jersey, right? You can hop on and get with anybody in any part of the world. Now, here's the real thing that I've been thinking about, that we we don't think about. We can take our content international now. And what I mean International, I'm talking about like non English speaking countries that love our content and our swag we can start. We looking at stuff here. I read this article, where they said in 2019, $59 billion was spent on streaming. Right? $59 billion was spent on streaming advertising. So if you were live streaming, they would pay you $60 billion, I'm sorry, $60 billion. $59 billion was spent in China. 1 billion of those dollars was spent in the US. That's why you're going to see by the end of this year, every platform is going to have capability for you to be your own TV studio, if you would like. Because they want you to stay on that platform. So then advertisers will pay more. So then you can get paid more, what really, they can get paid more, and then they can pay out more. So it opens up the world to like we're looking at like, the world is really small now, like, we don't even have to really even think about the United States. Like really think about that. Like, we're so United States Central, you know, because this is where we're from. But please, don't don't play if you start if you start connecting, and I don't know, I'm just saying for an English speaking country, let's say Ireland. And you start being like the, the show in Ireland, like that's possible. It's crazy. Like it's the, the fruit I like to say the fruit flavor combinations are endless. Just saying like, it's so much that we can do from, from the comfort of wherever we are.

Nicky Saunders: 1:06:03

This is true. This is true. Moose started a whole debate vibe. I see what you did there. I see what you

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:06:14

I mean, you know, you know why I've always did. enjoyed the Patreon story? Because I remember when the founder first went on, Casey Neistat's, like YouTube, I used to watch Casey Neistat a lot. And I remember like the beginning of that, and I'm like, yo, like, look into the founder story. Phenomenal story, too. I think you'd really enjoy it. I'll stop here so I don't give my man too much pub, but it's still a really dope like rags to riches kind of thing. Yeah. But I really love it. No, but Q man, this has been awesome, bro. I know we right at that hour mark, if you don't mind, this would be my last piece. You shared this with us on the Facebook side. I would love if you share it on this platform. You talked about one of your biggest lessons from interviewing a great, you know, he's a kid out of Brooklyn. And you know, you talked about that story. If you can just share that right here. Give even the abbreviated version if you must. Love it.

Quincy Harris: 1:07:14

Which story?

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:07:16

With Jay.

Quincy Harris: 1:07:19

Oh my goodness, man, man, man. Are we talking about...

Nicky Saunders: 1:07:23

Audio.

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:07:24

First time I've interviewed him or something like that. That joint had me...

Quincy Harris: 1:07:29

Okay. So kids, the year was 2001. And I had to come up to New York to interview Jay Z and R. Kelly. And I'm killing interview man. I'm like, I'm killing the interview. And I never forget was like little small...tape. And it was you know, it was in a hotel, I think was in a Waldorf Astoria. And I go in, they have a press conference, and was for what was that? Best of Both Worlds. And, you know, you can see, you can hear how I was like, we're in one hotel room, you can hear how the energy in the other room is going. And it wasn't going, you know? People start asking like the same kind of questions. So I come in, and I do the interview. I gotta send y'all this picture too for this. And I'm interviewing Jay. I had this like furry Kango on. I don't know what the heck, I was thinking. And I'm killing the interview. Like it's Jay, R. I'm going back and forth killing the interview. And he was like, Yo, man, you did your thing, man. Like, they laughing, it was cool, we take a picture. And I stop. And I'm like, I'm, I'm listening. I'm trying to listen to the joint. And it's like really low. And it didn't even record. It was like it record but like I had the mic in the wrong input. Just so I was just, it was just bad. And that really showed like I was... so I came back to Philly. The morning show sent me up there. I came back with nothing. Right? And it was a great interview, but only those people in the room heard it. And it crushed me. It crushed me to the point where I was like, man, I will never let that happen again. I would like, I made sure that anything I went through throughout my career I just made sure not and not even like it will never happen again. But because it happened again. Another artist but it didn't have, like those are the things I remember about my career the most. I was talking to a kid today, he's about to interview Stephen A. Smith. And I was just telling him you know some of my stories. I was like dude when you're interviewing people listen. I want you to listen. I'll never forget another story. DMX interviewed him in 2003. I listened to that tape the other day. Found the tape, had a converter and I missed what he said. He wanted to tell me something but I was so caught on what I wanted to say next and me being nervous and caught up in the moment and whatever, and I missed it. So those are the things I remember about my career to make me better. It's the things that where I got defeated or I didn't record something or I missed. I still want to know what DMX wanted to tell me. That was in 2003. I still look, sometimes I look back at that picture. I'm gonna send y'all the picture. I'm gonna take a picture on my phone, I'm gonna send y'all the picture of me with R. Kelly and Jay in there laughing and I'm killing it. You see Wayne Wonder. He's a DJ from Chicago, producer, worked at Jive. He's laughing in the background. And I'm like, Yo, I don't even remember what I was saying them. And those are the things I will remember. I don't think about the thousands of interviews that went well. I think about those four or five that were just like, bad, or I had a lesson to learn from those. So yeah, it's a lot to learn from your mistakes guys. Becaus me, I like not losing more than I like winning. Like I want to, I don't want to lose. Winning is cool, because what a win does for me is like where's the next win? I just want to win. Losing? I don't wanna lose, bro.

Nicky Saunders: 1:11:16

We just talked about this Moose.

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:11:18

We just talked about that. Yeah, legit. Yeah.

Quincy Harris: 1:11:21

Cuz y'all know, y'all know, I had to get my camera, right. Because last time I was on here, I'm like, uh, my camera wasn't right. I'm like, I'm here as the same issues again. What the hell? Oops, sorry. I'm sorry. I just you know, anytime. Anytime I talk to any ETA family, I act as if I'm talking to E.T. so I you know. But yeah background was crazy on the last interview, you know, I didn't have this background. I didn't have my lights. I was just really upset. But um, you know, I wanted to make sure that you know, we connected. So when y'all told me y'all you know, Q we want you. I'm like alright bet. I'm gonna be ready. So I thank y'all for the time and really,

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:12:12

Thank you. We enjoyed it.

Nicky Saunders: 1:12:14

It was so much more I wanted to ask and then I'm like awww. No we gotta go. We gotta go. Real quick. Real quick. Follow us on social media. Nicky and Moose Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, of course YouTube. You're watching this on YouTube. And you have to follow Q but I'm gonna let him tell you everything with that. We do go live Tuesdays now at 8pm right Moose?

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:12:51

Yep. 8pm Eastern. Yeah

Nicky Saunders: 1:12:52

8pm Eastern Tuesday at facebook.com/nickyandmoose. We are there. But Q, end us with ome final words. Well, where can they find you? And then kind of inal

Quincy Harris: 1:13:07

Everything Quincy Harris. @QuincyHarris on Instagram. I put alot of stuff on there. I'm expanding from there. So you'll see like the LinkTree in my bio soon. So @Quincy Harris on Instagram, and yeah check out the F and Q podcast. Look out for you know, more projects coming, community coming. And yeah, I would just say, again, when you want something, just think about how it sounds to the other person. Like I get a lot of DMs sometimes and it's like, Hey, man, I like your stuff. I want to use you that's how it sounds right? I love what's going on. I love what you're doing. I want to use you. And and I think w like just lead with trying t add value to people man. Li e just try to add value. Be o time. Be humble and it will it ll take you far and learn. Al ays learn. Always look to le rn man. We have to learn. D n't try to be the smartest p rson in the room. Like you alway hear that but don't try to b the smartest person in the roo and don't act like you kno everything because you don't That's i