Episode 27 - Your Own Path To Wealth

Nicky Saunders: 0:00

What's poppin'? What's poppin'? What's poppin'? Welcome to Nicky and Moose! I'm Nicky! That's Moose! What's up Moose?

Mostafa Ghonim: 0:08

What up y'all?

Nicky Saunders: 0:09

And welcome to Episode 27! On today's episode...Oooh, I'm gonna sound very commercial like okay? On this episode, right we're going to be talking about United Masters and its collaboration with Apple. Okay, I can't do this on the whole thing. I can't do it, but $50 million with United Masters and Apple, we'll get into that. We're going to be talking about NFT's some more stuff. Snoop Dogg, Tobe. We're gonna be talking about the definition of wealth with Dame and...and all this great st ff. We got kind of a left fi ld kind of conversation. You ju t got to listen to it. You ju t you'll get it when you hear it Moose how you feeling about th s episode?

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:01

Yeah, tune in to this one man. The NFT space is getting hot. It's getting personal. We got some personal ties and affiliations with it now. So this is gonna be a dope episode. I'm excited to get to it.

Nicky Saunders: 1:13

Let's get into his intro.

Jaymie Jordan: 1:16

Two kids from Queens, cut from a different cloth. Now joining forces helping you to elevate your personal brand. Yeah I'm talking about Nicky and Moose! Bringing you a never before seen perspective into the mindset, the mentality, the behaviors, the driving force, but more importantly, the stories behind the people and brands that you know and love the most.

Nicky Saunders: 1:45

So you know what time it is? It is review of the week. Okay, there we go. Review of the week. This one comes from Joshua's tribe. "The masters of the game"... hold on. I just liked the title. Okay. "love listening to these two and the depth of knowledge they bring to us is second to none." I like that. I like that.

Mostafa Ghonim: 2:17

Thanks Joshua,

Nicky Saunders: 2:18

Shout out to you shout out to everybody who leaves a review, please. Especially if you are on Apple Podcast, leave us a review. We appreciate it. We read all of them. And you could be live on the podcast if you do it. Each week. We do it each week. So, not to start this off in a very sad note. But we actually got news today when this is recording that DMX is in the hospital. I don't know what to believe we got TMZ reports. So we already know those vibes. But overall, he has a heart attack. And he is supposedly on life support. Some reports say he's off of it. Some people say he's on but at the end of the day he is in the hospital. So our prayers are with DMX. I literally told Moose, he cannot go. So hopefully by the time you listen, he is better and everything like that. But he cannot go. He is way too important. In my lovely hip hop love and everything like that, like hit that first album. Classic, classic. I still listen to it. Classic "Damien" classic. "How's it Goin Down" there's too much. Like he can't, he can't.

Mostafa Ghonim: 3:52

Yeah I remember I remember when you played me "The Intro" the night of the Verzuz battle and we were like sat back and really talked about that for a minute. Of course his affiliation with just the Ruff Ryders and all that the "Ruff Ryders Anthem", all of that. I mean, yeah, it definitely is crazy. And of course our thoughts and prayers are with him. For real for real like I know people always say that like yo we'll pray for him. Yeah, we'll see what happens. Yeah, hopefully he'll put through this.

Nicky Saunders: 4:21

Yeah, and he's been through so much, like so so much. And I actually want to just to highlight, just like a positive thing, because I know a lot of people are going to go to maybe the reason of why this heart attack happened. Whatever it is, he's highly documented with his demons and things like that. But you know, in this time, you know, we got to celebrate. So, got a really dope clip. Based off that BET documentary. I don't know if you saw it. BET did a like a Ruff Ryders Chronicles, it was really good. So if you didn't watch that, go watch that. Its whole vibe. But this part really made me smile.

Swizz Beatz: 5:13

DMX, give away most of his things. You never seen DMX with a bunch of gold chains, you never seen DMX in Lamborghinis and all those different things.

Irv Gotti: 5:23

DMX is constantlly giving people money and you know what I'm saying sit there and kick it with like a bum. And not just give them money but give them time and talk.

DMX: 5:31

I just want to be recognized as being a nice...that's all. I don't want attention. I don't want all that...I just want them to think yo I'm nice.

Irv Gotti: 5:39

He would always give back and not for publicity he would just do it.

Nicky Saunders: 5:48

So what's good about this is like, when we think of hip hop artists, we instantly think jewelry, cars, houses, everything like that. And DMX has always been the opposite of that. DMX just really stays very to the streets very to what we've always known him for, regardless of how much money he has. And that's not very typical. And for, like, for us to hear that. Well, we don't see that because he gives it all away. It that says a lot about a person. And gratefully, nothing happens to him. But down the line. When he does go, I feel like we're going to hear more stories about that more stories about like, just how he just gave out knowledge, how he gave out money and all the good things he's done. Because media, and this is why I don't necessarily want to give props to TMZ and everything like that. Um, media will just show you what they want to show you based off clicks based off viewership, and things like that. So if we rely on media, we've only heard about his demons. We like nothing else. I think me and Moose offline was like, Okay, do we go over DMX? And I'm like, yo, they really didn't highlight anything else about him. Like shout out to, uh, Drink Champs and you know, Nore and, and his co host, because they always tried to bring him on. And like, let's talk about all the stories that were good. And what happened that, you know, you remembered that actually brought you joy, right? But like, if we leave it up to the regular media, it's just like, come on, like, Are you just going to bring up how many times he went to jail? Are you going to just bring up all the drug usage and everything like that? It's like, Why? Why? This is a human being.

Mostafa Ghonim: 8:10

Yeah, it's unfortunate, man. I mean, I think, you know, ever since that, and I don't like to make reference to it. But ever since the, you know, the whole Kobe situation, I haven't really been a fan of mainstream media, because I think they just violate people's privacy, just to chase a headline or chase, you know, the first one to share something. But what I think is so dope about this clip is that for those who listen to DMX's music, for those who know about his story, or his upbringing, you see this like monsterous persona, right? Like a very violent, tough, alpha male, straight up pilot, you know, in reference to the flight assessment, but then you see him talking this way. And it kind of lets you restore some hope in the sense that you can still be someone who's very, you know, straight and to the point, but still have a care for people. And I think that's one of the things that's often misunderstood is that people look at the big persona, and they forget about what's in somebody's heart. And I think a clip like that, where you get to hear him say it, it's not just narrated, it's not just someone vouching for him, but it's a combination of both and it's coming from him is like, okay, that puts a good level of proof behind what's happening. And we get to see the man you know, behind what we see in the light so I think there's always dope but you know, definitely definitely, definitely hope everything turns for the better with him.

Nicky Saunders: 9:32

Facts, so prayers up to DMX. Hopefully by the time you hear this, we hear some good news. But definitely, I know personally, I love DMX. So, air horns for him. But let's get into this episode. Um, so this one was really out of the blue and shout out to one of our listeners. Ashley Schuler, who was like Okay, y'all gotta talk about this. I was like, what's up? What happened right? Nah, the comments are lit. And I was like, Who? Okay I know of this person, but what? So, backstory. So there is this influencer on social media right called Rachel Hollis. I think that's her name. I don't even want to...when I really don't like a situation I don't even like referring by their name. Right.

Mostafa Ghonim: 10:33

Give them the initials. R.H.

Nicky Saunders: 10:35

Right. Right. Right. Right. So, let's, let's show the video. But you're, it's the captions for me. It's, it's the caption for me. So just bear with me. Here is the video that has been getting thousands and thousands of comments and a lot of backlash. And you tell us your opinion.

Rachel Hollis: 11:00

Okay. Yesterday, I was doing a live stream and I mentioned that there's a sweet woman who comes to my house twice a week and cleans. She's my my house cleaner. She cleans the toilets. Someone commented and said you are privileged af. nd I was like, you're right. 'm super freaking privileged, ut also worked my ass off to ave the money to have someone ome twice a week and clean my oilets. And I told her that and hen she said, Well, you're nrelatable Ah, what is it about e that made you think I want to e relatable. No sis, literally everything I do in my life is to live a life that most people can't relate to. Most people won't work this hard. Most people won't get up at 4am most people won't fail publicly again and again. Just to reach the top of the mountain. Literally every woman I admire in history was unrelatable. If my life i relatable to most people, I' doing it wrong

Nicky Saunders: 12:07

Now,

Mostafa Ghonim: 12:08

Big corn, big corns, big corn, big corns

Nicky Saunders: 12:13

So so I'm not...like I thought that was lame. I'm gonna be honest with you. I thought that was lame. But the caption for those who are on YouTube, you could see it, but for my audio listeners, I got y'all. She said, "Harriet Tubman, RBG, Marie Curie"... I don't even know how to say that. "Oprah". Who else? Moose read the rest. You know, those are definitely...

Mostafa Ghonim: 12:52

I can't even see it. It's small on my end. But uh, yeah,

Nicky Saunders: 12:56

"Amelia Earhart".

Mostafa Ghonim: 12:57

Just the couple. The couple the first few that you just read. It's like, Okay, um, the fact that you're going down that path? Yeah.

Nicky Saunders: 13:05

So listen, y'all know me first off for the names. So I apologize. Right. My biggest issue, of course, is when you refer yourself to Harriet Tubman and Oprah off top that, and I'm gonna be very blunt. And I'm cool with it. Right? Ma'am? You are a Caucasian female. Right, that is comparing yourself to Harriet Tubman. I don't I don't think you you went through slavery. Let's just stay there. let's let's let's be honest with that. You. There's no comparison. I don't think the people that you mentioned were trying to be unrelatable. I don't. I don't think that was I think they try to make history. I think they tried to create a path for those. They try to do things so others didn't have to right. They tried to say hey, this is what I did. And you can too, which makes it relatable, which makes it to like Yo, if you could do it, I can too. I will follow her because they have similar backgrounds or similar stories, or just the path of success and the drive ambition that I want to be. Not this whole I'm trying to be unrelatable and the people I look up to I don't I don't...I question what do you How did you connect with Harriet Tubman? How? How Sway? Drive? Maybe? Okay, ambition, okay? Because I'm not big on the whole, I think people are people, I'm big on that people are people, I don't really look at it as a race thing or anything like that. However, there's nothing about your story that connects, there's nothing and this is my thing. I mean, let me bring it back. Let me bring back. And we've we've talked about this. Sometimes you don't have to retaliate so quickly. Maybe you don't even have to retaliate at all. Another not so smart individual was that Derrick Jaxn guy. I don't like saying his name either. But after he got caught and for those who don't know, right, um, as far as this relationship guru who got caught cheating on his wife, why are you a relationship guru and your relationship is trash? Okay, cool. Then a few days later, when he gets caught, he goes online, has his wife next to him and proceeds to just talk back and try to answer all the questions that every and address the situation, right. However, the way he did it, and as close as he did, it actually pretty much canceled him out, instead of necessarily help. Sometimes, when we use our platforms, we have to be a little bit more strategic, we have to understand and this is where the conversation that me and you had of, once you are an influencer, are you holding the responsibility of a role model? Right? And my problem with this is like, you are aware of your influence. Like you're aware of it, I think both these two individuals are very aware of their influence, right? I think what she did was pretty much say, I don't care about none of y'all, I'm gonna do my life. It is what it is. Okay. If it was just the video, let's just say let me if it was just the video. Alright, Boo, you live a lifestyle. That's how you feel. Cool. It is your, your vibe. But it's the caption for me that you were comparing your life of having a housekeeper to a whole journey and situation with slavery, and that whole community with how Oprah was treated as well and her journey and her success. And you're sitting here saying we are the same. We are unrelatable. No, no, ma'am. No, no, I don't. I personally don't think that but Moose.

Mostafa Ghonim: 18:40

Ah man! Man this is this is wrong on so many levels. Right? If you were to make a checklist of how not to do content, make sure you use this example in there for anybody who is is watching or taking notes. Right? Let me tell you, aside from the fact that it's tone deaf, right. That's what that's the way you would label something like that someone who is white, Caucasian, I like that Nicky, used the sophisticated. She said Caucasian.

Nicky Saunders: 19:10

I don't want to make it into race thing. So let's be politically correct.

Mostafa Ghonim: 19:15

Yeah, but you know, the tone deaf and then using the examples of some of the strongest, most influential black females in our history, right. It's a bit of a stretch. Here's some of my beliefs on that right. First off when you're great at that level, you don't necessarily claim your greatness. You don't need to claim your greatness when you're truly great. And we've heard this quote many times, people whose lives you've touched in impact, they will come chanting your name, and letting you know that you are you don't need to really drop your title or your accomplishments or the lifestyle that you live as a result of what you've done or the sacrifices you've made. Your results will speak for themselves. The people will chant your name, that's the first part. The second part of it is, literally, it's a, it's a desperate stretch for content. You can see it's just so obvious and blatant, it's a, it's a desperate stretch for content, it's you taking something that's completely not relevant, and wanting to spin it back and say, Okay, let me put this back out there, right, so that I can turn this into a lesson, which clearly it's not. In 2017, or 18, one of the the missions or the values that I've kind of set for myself is, it was after my month of fast, it was after the month of Ramadan. And I said, the biggest lesson that I took through fasting is that I have to prioritize character over content. You have to prioritize character over content. So as a personal brand, or business, whatever you're doing that you're utilizing social media for, ask yourself this question, man, if this was the one and only piece of content that the world would see from me, would I be happy that that's the type of introduction that they get to know about me with Is this how you would want people to know about you. And the fact that that video is still up now, the fact that the comments are as crazy as they are, it just shows that it's an arrogance, of like, you know, what, I don't care, I am tone deaf, and I'm going to ride it and reap the rewards of it. Because that's the other side of it, that Unfortunately, we can't control, which is people are going to give her attention just to know what happened. Just to respond to it. You know, we're speaking on it briefly here, we should send her an invoice just for giving her an opportunity to even you know, I'm saying get our light but but truthfully, though, this is more for our people in our community, just so that you know what not to do, right and the lesson that I want to leave here is to really, truly prioritize character over content so that if people were to meet you, or one of your videos, when it blows up, right? What's the type of introduction you want to make to the world on that very first interaction, but everything else man is just yeah its too low.

Nicky Saunders: 22:15

But the thing that I have, like, because I'm, I'm big on, like, having the confidence within yourself, right? So if you believe, right, if you believe within yourself, you stand next to these people, or you're as great as these people. By all means, bravo to you, right. However, saying that you have a house keeper, whatever it is, right? And you're saying, Yo, I'm privileged. I'm like this. And I'm not relatable as these people. I don't think Harriet Tubman had a housekeeper. I don't? I don't I don't. I don't think that that is the vibe. I think she was one. I don't think she had one. Right. Now, if you were and it's just understand, as as an influencer, it is sensitive times we are... There's a lot of people that don't have tough skin. And you are reaching the masses, right? There's certain things especially in the minority community, that you just should not say you shouldn't. Now you could be angry at your, at your follower who said that you were privileged, then you handle that one on one, you dm that person. You have conversations with them through your comments, but the fact that you're using public humiliation is saying what about your leadership? Right? Like what is this say? So you get pissed off from a follower and you humiliate them by making content pretty much indirectly calling them out. Right? And then pretty much telling all your followers, I'm not here to relate with you, I don't want you to connect with me. I don't want you to feel like we are on the same level. And this goes so against what we speak about with branding with the whole, like you have to be a human, like people connect with people. And we have to see that we can connect with you connect with you that we could reach you that we have similar interests or drive for success or something, or you're literally showing me how it's supposed to be you making having a housekeeper a goal? Is, is different. I'll just say, it's just different.

Mostafa Ghonim: 25:16

You know what's crazy? I don't even have a problem with the concept of a housekeeper. Right. Like, that's how some people make a living. Yeah, I think what really, what really got under my skin is the fact that she says she cleans my toilets. You know what I'm saying? Like, because you're going to the lowest of lows, to show what a person does. Like what if you have housekeepers, as a part of your community or your following, that are willing to engage in your, in your services in your products? You know, like, it's just, you're going to the bottom of, like, I don't know, for me, it's like, I lose all respect for somebody like that, because like we talk about there is this human element that we think is important, because you're on the other side of your screen as an actual person. While you may not feel that way right now, because COVID has kind of maybe jaded some people's perspectives, that's still reality. And for her to make that reference, and then say, Oh, my housekeeper cleans my toilets. There's like a deeper meaning behind that. That's just, that's just, I don't even have words for it. Because I'm, I don't like to, you know, use any improper language. But that's just not cool man.

Nicky Saunders: 26:33

Listen, if you do not want to take the responsibility of all races, all nationalities, all incomes, like, maybe your type of brand, isn't like it, you should rebrand yourself. Right? And the only reason that we know of this person is because they are affiliated with people, we know, I was not following this person prior to right. But, you know, what seemed to be genuine, what seemed to be, you know, a kind person has now showed true self and what is what I appreciate about social media is that eventually,

Mostafa Ghonim: 27:40

Yeah,

Nicky Saunders: 27:41

fakeness will come out. Yeah. Yeah, like,

Mostafa Ghonim: 27:45

It's going to reveal itself.

Nicky Saunders: 27:46

who you really are, is really like, and there's a lot of people who do play that game of this polished kind of vibe. And this has nothing to do with race. This has just Straight up. Yeah, that is gotta be used as an example of how not everything to do with how easy it is to be fake on social media, and manipulate people to make people feel as if you are one way and that you care. But in all honesty, it's really about your life. And what this brand can do to get you to the next level, and not necessarily the people. Because just like how Moose said, this should have been taken down once you saw the reactions, or the overall reactions. That's something that you should have taken down as a person of leadership as a person of influence. If you really care about the people, but according to your video, you do not. And that is okay. Then do what you do. Right. But that really shows right there one, how the fake will always come out. Right? Tw , how not to talk to yo to ever do content. r follower Yeah, how not to do content, how not to reply. And granted, you're not going to like everything your followers are going to say you're not going to like every single comment, regardless if they are a troll or not just have a different perspective, grew up in a different environment and just may not have the same mindset as you you're not going to agree with everything, but it as your influence grows. You have to learn to be the bigger person. You have to learn to grow with your influence. You have to mature as a human being because you have people that are looking up to you looking Your movement, and either being very at all, or more, push back based off what you do. And so we gave this a little bit more time than we should have. But at the same time, I want people to look at what this person did, what the male figure of her did the relationship guru type situation, right? And learn that you know what first, not everything deserves an announcement, a comeback, a video addressing everything that has been said, like, you needed your team at that point, you needed to let go of your phone and give it to somebody else. That that video from both ends should have never came out in the time that it did. Okay, you should have recorded it, save it, come back to it the next day and see, you know what, let me get out of my feelings. Because that was a pure emotional video. And once you have such a brand of that caliber, you can't move off feelings, you have to move off facts and stats, you have to move off with the intentions of thinking of others. Like that can really affect and push back your brand. And if you don't necessarily care, like you said on your video, then what we're saying now is really irrelevant. But for those people who are trying to learn from this situation and learn from the Derrick Jaxn situation, and that whole blahness, right, is that there is a time and a strategic plan to address your followers about some things that have been addressed or brought to your attention. And you really have to think things through because people are seeking for what you have to say about the situation. And you don't necessarily want to be tone deaf.

Mostafa Ghonim: 32:35

Yep. And just for the record, while there may be some affiliates, this is not about either of these two individuals, it's really to highlight the context of what happened. And you know, the lesson that we're trying to give to our community members, the people who tuned into this podcast on our platform, as an example of what not to do, and respectfully, you know, we don't again, this is we don't know them as individuals. So I do want to say that, but I just want to speak to the context of it. And this is the everyday problem that can destroy the most successful businesses, the more the most successful personal brands, it's an it's something as an oversight, that that's that that is that small that you might think is so regular in your world, that can completely destroy much of what you worked hard to build. So that's the main lesson that I want, you know, our community members to walk away with from this, because at the end of the day, it's not about those individuals, at least, and I'm sure you feel the same. It's definitely not that way.

Nicky Saunders: 33:33

No, it's not about individuals. It's just the fact that of the influence that you have, like, what does that...What does it tell for your followers, but at the end of the day, it's like, I'm not trying to complain about it. I'm not trying to downplay anybody, but what, even though I semi did, and that's okay, right? But at the end of the day, like, I'm going to look at it like, what can I do different because I can't just talk about it, I have to be the change. As a female myself, I can't put say something reckless and then try to double down on it and be like, well, these females did it. And so I can too. No, they had other situations that probably had nothing to do with a housekeeper. Nothing, nothing of their actions was the same just because of what money was allowed to give them. That was a completely slight flex and not even a slight flex that she did. That was this is what I can do. I work my behind off. That's, you know, and if you can't relate with that, that's This is not for you, and I'm not trying to be for you. Cool, then. That's cool that but for me, I'm going to take this as like, well, if you don't want to talk to that audience Hello, I will, or and other people will be like, I'll take those that you're not connecting with and probably beat you. Just saying. Yes, I was a little upset about this. I apologize. It's nothing personal. I just don't like when people do that. I don't like when people downplay other females downplay anybody just because of the way they live based off maybe the results they've done. It doesn't make you a better person. You should...Your goal should never be I'm not relatable. That's not.. that shouldn't be a goal in life. I'm trying never to be relatable to you. That's weird. That's weird. I don't understand it. I will say it's not wrong. I just don't understand it. And I don't subscribe to it. So let's talk about some NFT's though.

Mostafa Ghonim: 36:14

On to better news.

Nicky Saunders: 36:15

Right. So first off, right? Yes, we are still talking about NFT's because this is not going anywhere. Okay. We talked a little bit before about Bleacher Report in the NBA, right? We've talked about the whole Beeple thing and $69 million. Right. Now, we're getting into two artists that we enjoy. Right? And let me see hold on and I, man I should have came correct. I really should have came correct. But let's uh, let's announce one person who dropped their collection of NFT's. And if it wanted to come up, it we could do that right. So as I'm waiting for this video, right because its taking a minute. Um, I'll give y'all a hint. It's Snoop. It's Snoop Dogg. There it go.

Snoop Dogg: 37:22

*NFT Song*

Mostafa Ghonim: 37:41

That's hilarious.

Nicky Saunders: 37:42

I love Snoop. And the fact that he came out with his own type of NFT collection. And the crazy thing is like, this really shows community, right? Because there was so he did an NFT song. Right. what you heard, right is a piece of his NFT song that was sold for $500 with a with a image of a whatchamacallit? A diamond joint. Now everybody knows Snoop smokes.

Mostafa Ghonim: 38:23

Wow, that was a part of the release?

Nicky Saunders: 38:24

Yes. So if you got the diamond joint, right, which

Mostafa Ghonim: 38:26

That's what's up. That was a dope song. was $500, you got not only that, but as well as the exclusive NFT song. Right. And he is the he did multiple ones like he had a young Snoop. Right. He dis a few one on ones, right one of ones. So there was a young Snoop, there was a Hussle, there was a Death Row thing. And they're like $55,000, $53,000, the Death Row one is $108,000. He had Snoop Dogg coins for $213. He ha ... this this is what I lo e. Because this is where it ma es his art or imagery to an experience. So he has a roa h. And for those people who do ot smoke, that is a blunt that is this big now because t ey finished smoking it right. 'm not condoning. I'm just lett ng you know what it is. Right. So he has a picture of a blunt nd it's $25,000. But if you uy this, you have a chance to go and chill with Snoop. Ther 's only 25 of those. And you h ve the chance to go chill with Snoop and probably if it's a oach, then that means Ther will probably be extra acti ities that are involved. But love how he literally took what he is about and his brand and ut it into these NFT situatio s and dropped it. Like he's lik , Yo, I'm gonna be part of this whole whole situation. Like I'm eeing people dropping out all these things I want to drop som too. I got my team, and h was on Clubhouse talking a out it. Like, Yo, I just want to be part of this because I think this is the new wave for music. I think this is great for ar ists to sell our music, ell our creativity, and then st ll make some money back off of he back end. I don't know. I l Man. That's interesting. I mean, you definitely educated me on what a roach was. I had no idea what that was. So thank you for that. I had no idea what that was. So, you know, I'm just being honest. I had no idea. So...

Nicky Saunders: 41:09

Yo shout out to Moose being so pure. I'm when I tell you pure pure, pure. Don't get twisted that he lives in Queens. We do not live in the hood. Nothing like that. Okay, that doesn't mean he is a whole thug. No, he did not know what a roach was.

Mostafa Ghonim: 41:31

I didn't. I didn't know what that was.

Nicky Saunders: 41:34

But what does that say about me though?

Mostafa Ghonim: 41:38

Oh, oh.

Nicky Saunders: 41:44

Oh my god, anyway.

Mostafa Ghonim: 41:48

Yeah. Go Snoop. On that note, go Snoop Dogg. Yeah. Yeah, no, I mean, I what I will say, though, the dope part about this is, you know, I'm, here's a good example of what to do, right? leaning deeper into who you are. And I like it. You know, what, you might not be someone who approves that type of lifestyle, but at least he's making it clear to you, so you have the opportunity to choose, right? So it would it would be terrible, if he was trying to hide that or portrayed as something else. And people invest that type of money into what he's releasing. And then they go to it. And it's like, Whoa, I didn't think it was like that. My point is, what I like about Snoop whether you are with his lifestyle or against his lifestyle, I'm taking the neutral position here. And just saying that he he really openly speaks about what he's about what he enjoys what you can expect when you invest into that product or into his NFT. Right, so that there is no secrets. It's he's very transparent. And he really is being himself. So when you talk about a branding example of what to do, you know, I'm not saying go ahead and get a cockroach but...Classic. Classic. Water. Drink some water, alright. Get me off the main screen. I feel weird now.

Nicky Saunders: 43:32

Oh, my God. Oh I am hurt. Oh, my God. He's said cockroach.

Mostafa Ghonim: 43:40

I don't know. I'm just saying,

Nicky Saunders: 43:43

Oh, when you try to get into the lingo, and it goes wrong. Oh, um first off.

Mostafa Ghonim: 43:54

That's what happened there it was like this.

Nicky Saunders: 43:58

Okay, so this is...Oh, my God. Okay. Um, I don't even know what I was gonna talk about, because that threw me all the way off. Um, okay. No, I do remember. So what's really cool about this drop, right, not only what Moose said, as far as, you know, we get what we expect from from Snoop. Right. I was about to say from Moose from Snoop, as far as just the whole lifestyle of Snoop. Right. But what's cool about this one is that he's actually giving proceeds to other creators who are trying to get into crypto art as well as his football league. Right? So it's not just 100% going to the artist because we're like, Yo, what? How much more money you need Snoop? Like this. Is this crazy. Like, if we could add this up you don't need this much, right. But the fact that he's like, Yo, I really want to help other creators get into this space because I really fully believe in this and how this can really change for creators period. I think that was pretty cool. I don't know if you caught on to that, but I really thought that was pretty dope as far as that that portion of it. But on a separate note before we get into next one I saw on Saturday Night Live talking about NFT's. Did you see that little clip that they did?

Mostafa Ghonim: 45:29

Interesting. I didn't. I saw some other stuff I think I told you about with CNBC. But no, tell me about

Nicky Saunders: 45:34

No. So they had a skit. And I think Jack Harlow that. rapped about NFT's right? So what they did was take a clip from that and turn it into an NFT and said, Hey, the person with the highest bid gets this NFT on top of two tickets to season 47. I was like, what?!

Mostafa Ghonim: 46:02

Wow! That's what's up! That's what's up. Talk about getting creative with your offer. That's really dope.

Nicky Saunders: 46:09

Yeah. And so you know, me shout out to a Tiffany Haynes, I sent that straight to Tiff like, ma'am, this could be something we can do, as far as getting other people to like with E's, events and stuff like that. And this is, the reason why we're going over NFT's so much is because for what we cover when it comes to personal brands and businesses, this is a different unique way that can really communicate with your communities and your clients and things like that, to get a unique experience from your brand. So like I just explained was Saturday Night Live. They do...we all know they do skits, they're on TV doing skits. And they literally took one thing made it into a GIF. And say, Yo, I'm going to give you access, if you buy this not just you get the GIF, not just that you get the art or whatever, you get two tickets for it. There was um, what was it that that group? King Leon, I think that would was who was called right, who dropped an album and put it as an NFT and said, the people who get this, this album as an NFT gets front row tickets for the rest of your life or something. And it's like, oh, okay, I and shout out to everybody who heard the last episode. I really think Nipsey would kill this space,

Mostafa Ghonim: 47:59

Oh for sure. For sure.

Nicky Saunders: 48:00

Because he was already doing it.

Mostafa Ghonim: 48:02

He was already experienced...

Nicky Saunders: 48:03

He was already doing it with his Marathon Clothing store and all that stuff. I think he would kill this space. So that's why we're going over this whole NFT. So you're like why you're always talking about this. This is like the third episode, because it's important. And you heard it first here that is about to change everything with personal branding and businesses in general. But we have an exclusive exclusive look from somebody. Y'all may know, we've highlighted him a little bit on this show. But in the talk of, you know, NFT's it's only right, that we we show the Mint Collection, the Tobe NFT that is going to come out. You see it. Oh, the Mint Collection is going to be a whole vibe. We can't say too much. We can't say too much. But I know the only thing I definitely can say is that there's going to be a lot of education that comes out about NFT's from this camp, right? Tobe is really big on his community and keeping them up to date with what he's doing and how the culture is embracing NFT's so he's going to make sure that all the education as far as what is NFT's how to set up your your wallet to buy NFT's, what place to go buy it and everything like that. Like there's there's a lot coming I can't say I don't want to say too much. I don't want to say too much. But when I tell you Y'all better look out for what Tobe is doing, because he is about to show a whole new rollout for how NFT's is going, like, this is just a preview. And it's a pretty preview, by the way. It's a pretty it is screams Tobe. It just I don't know what what you think?

Mostafa Ghonim: 50:19

Absolutely, yeah, no, definitely. I mean, getting to know told more and more. And seeing this come to life is like, yeah, the whole team, that whole camp executed on it with like, fear, like fearless timelines and execution, bringing it to life. So I'm really excited to see what's happening. Because, man, the dude got so many incredible opportunities, everyone knocking on his door, and for him continuing to stay disciplined to say, I'm going to pick out what opportunities are best suitable for us and the team, you know, I think is going to be really incredible.

Nicky Saunders: 50:55

And, and this is only fitting for Tobe because Tobe is, is an independent artists, right? So if, if you haven't been paying attention to the whole NFT wave, and just like how what Snoop did, like he released a song and, and attached it to, like a diamond joint. So if you get the diamond joint, you get the song as well, right? Which, if anybody was to resell that diamond joint, Snoop will forever get royalties based off how he set it up in the back, right? Where now this gives complete control and ownership of how the music is distributed among the artists, right. So it only makes sense for Tobe to be like, Yo, I'm going to drop my own collection. Who is to say, and this is speculation, this is not any of the things that are possibly going to drop but who's to say that he won't drop unreleased music, who was to say he won't allow certain access or certain exclusive shows and things like that he has all control of what could possibly happen with this coin. If you have this coin, this can possibly this could possibly open up this door, that door this door. And at the end of the day, if he creates it in a limited amount, right? There is going to be an increase of demand for it. Yo, I didn't get the chance to get the Tobe coin, how can I get it? Then his community could be like, Well, I have one. How much you got for it? Haha, I'll trade you or boom, this is how much it is like this is how brands artists, businesses can create demand in a very unique and digital way. So I'm excited about this release. Because I would love to see if you haven't seen anything of Tobe's videos, Tobe's fashion, anything that Tobe does his his live shows his virtual show. It's always an experience. So this shouldn't be anything different. This should be something that other artists are going to literally write down each step that he does, because they're doing that for his music videos as it is right now. So he literally sets the blueprint of, of this age of music artists, so I'm excited to see what he does with this NFT. I don't know about you.

Mostafa Ghonim: 54:08

Yeah, yeah, no, I mean, like I said, that taught me so many dope things to say about him. And the my favorite part. We actually have a leadership development call that we do and Tobe is on the call. And to tell you that there is no difference between Tobe on that call, which is a very small group, there's no more than four of us on there, versus what the millions of people see on his platform is literally the same exact person, the same exact jokes, right, talking about the same concept. So it's just like man, to see that level of authenticity come to life now in the digital space with this. I'm excited like you said to see what type of experience and creativity he brings to it because knowing Tobe he doesn't mind going against the grain like he'll follow the blueprint. He doesn't mind always going against the grain to add his element or his twist to it, so that he can leave his mark on it. And typically it elevates the experience or it makes the, you know what they're putting out to be a lot better. So I'm excited to see what happens on this. I think they're gonna come with it. You know, you've sent me some stuff that I see. And I'm like, can we buy this? Can we place a bid here?

Nicky Saunders: 55:25

Listen, I'm definitely going to be supporting. Hopefully, everybody who supports Nicky and Moose will support Tobe in this whole NFT thing. And as we know more, you get to know more. So shout out to Tobe and that whole camp. But big news, since we're talking about Tobe, he's actually really cool. And one of his mentors is Steve Stoute. Right? So big news with United Masters and Apple, right? So, backstory United Masters is pretty much like a place where independent artists go and are able to distribute their music have the same type of opportunities as being on a record label, but keeping all their rights to their music, right. We've heard multiple horror stories of artists and their masters and not being able to have their masters and it's always celebrated, that you keep it and things like that. Well, United Masters allows you to keep all your rights, but still be able to shine with certain tools and resources. And so Apple just in like, gave them $50 million which isn't light. That's not light, but I loved what he Steve Stoute just went to the Joe Budden podcast and said this bar that pretty much explained why this is important, and why you not United Masters is important. So let's get into it.

Steve Stoute: 57:24

It's now what I'm saying and what they're saying is, it's an option to go independent. Like, if you go to a major label, that's one option. But just because you go independent doesn't mean you have you don't have the same opportunities. Prior you think if you go independent, you're definitely gonna get jerked on the opportunities, you're not gonna get a shot to get.. Yeah, but now what we're saying is what my goal is to not say, you know, the record companies, but it's just one option, you can go take an advance and sign your rights away, right, or you can control your rights, come to United Masters and get similar opportunities. That's the goal.

Nicky Saunders: 58:06

So I really love this because the fact and, and don't look so much into the music kind of vibe, right? Even though this is about music, this literally shows that there's always options to everything that you do when it comes to branding and business. Right? You there are benefits of doing it with a major machine, major influencer, you know, major company, there's, there's always benefits to that, right. And there's some cons to it. But to do things on your own, to have ownership has been the theme of pretty much 2020, 2021 It seems like right? And maybe a little bit before but definitely in these past two years, we have really seen more people embrace it more and more, right? And the fact that Apple is seeing, hey, we want to support independent artists too. Because as we know, Apple and Apple Music, our distributors is one of the major distributors of music at this point. So they clearly say, Hey, we don't want to only support the record labels. We know that there is a wave of independent artists that are a lot of them are top of the charts, and they're not backed by a record label. So why don't we invest In the independent side and provide different opportunities, because at the end of the day, like everybody benefits if I invest in you, that means we get more music. That means our users are going to be happy because we get maybe first dibs on this, this artist or exclusive content on this artist at different playlists that may be we we are have been struggling to do compared to like a Spotify and things like that. So I think from a strategic point, because I believe also with this 50 mil they become strategic partners. So I can see where this benefits everybody. Right. But it's great to see that it benefits everybody on an independent level. Right. And Steve Stoute went on Breakfast Club and was like, Look, with this money, we're going to build the system, we're going to build the infrastructure, so that when other artists come in, that they just go through what like CJ says the carwash, right, where everybody is given the same tools, the same resources, the same opportunities, and all you probably have to do is work. You probably have to put in the work, but we're giving you all these different things. For for me, I look at it from a standpoint of like, everybody's making, being by yourself, and ownership and all way more sexier than it was years ago. Way more sexier.

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:01:52

100%. 100%. Yeah, yeah, I think what's what's what's really cool about this too, is that the fact that someone like Steve Stoute is leading this, with his experience in the industry with his relational network, I think this puts him like really in a very unique place to be able to create a big shift in the way the music industry has done business. And it's an opportunity to to finally balance out the power. Like you said, the strive or the attempt to pull back ownership we saw last week on Nipsey's episode, you know, when he talked about a big part of him being okay to sign with a label that that was okay. But it had to come with a strategic partnership. So now that that message has been preached, I think many people have seen it. And the other side of it too is before what the label was able to hold over your head is that you can't blow up without us. Now that somebody like Chance the Rapper has done it. Many, many, many others with the help of social media and people's ability to really control their narrative tell this story build their brand through social media. Obviously, we've seen Tobe literally do it right under our eyes. Over the last three years is created a much more level playing field where Steve Stoute can now go to market with something like this have the backing of such big executives. Of course, when Apple puts their name on something that's going to open some doors for you. Even if you're Steve Stoute, I think that gets you you know, in a room with some bigger money, that you can really create a shift here. So, you know, it's cool to see what's happening. But I'm also really excited to see what's going to happen in the, in the industry, or like the music industry down the road, or in the future of how something like this cannot really shift the culture or give people an opportunity that typically would have not been picked up because of any one of the reasons that an artist may not be attractive to a big label per se, but they can like I was reading up on some of the resources and they said, this will give an opportunity for artists to literally, iMessage one of their songs on the platform using iMessage and get it distributed, you know, amongst all of the major networks. So it's, it's gonna really create a very easy access for a lot of artists to showcase their talents. And they know who knows what can happen from there. So I think it's gonna be dope to see how it unfolds.

Nicky Saunders: 1:04:11

Yeah, and I think since since we, you know, you mentioned Nipsey, so I gotta go in a little bit on it. Um, but if we, we looked at that journey. And I just finished read today just finished reading that that book that came out the unofficial biography of Nipsey (The Marathon Don't Stop: The Life and Times of Nipsey Hussle) by Rob Kenner, I think, right. And he was talking about how Victory Lap was literally the end of the independent era. Right? It was The Marathon was talking about how we did it by ourselves, the grind the hustle and everything. But the Victory Lap was saying, yo, we figured out a deal that works for us. Now we're going to a whole new level. So this is the end of the era of independency. Because they also saw as far as being a strategic partner, right, that they needed a team they needed, you know, I need the marketing situation, I need the push, I need the distribution, like, we've done it so far by ourselves like this. Right? And if United Masters like allows those different types of opportunities, because I don't think, at this era that record labels are so needed, right? I think before because they were the only option they were needed. And now that they're not the only option. It's like, Okay, well, how can we still utilize that system though, because it's not completely a waste, because there's backing with a whole big budget, connections, things like that. And so when we're looking at how Nip did it, he was like, Okay, let's become strategic partners, I'm hoping United Masters allows opportunities to utilize the labels as strategic partners down the line, maybe once you make a certain amount, once you've done this amount of things, I don't think that should be available for everybody, but I think they should, they could do tiers, that would be really amazing to have something of, I still keep my, my rights, you know, I'm still able to utilize the independent route. But I do tap into the resources of both, I think that'd be amazing to see. because ideally, that would be that'd be great for everybody. Right? And, and even, and talking outside of, of music for a second like you would want both of both worlds have the corporate kind of lifestyle and resources and tools, but still being able to do it on your own to still be able to have, you know, a leadership and creative control and doing all the things you want to do. But with the backing in the team that you honestly need, I think, ideally, that should be the goal for everybody.

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:07:34

Yeah, yeah, I'd love if they can make that happen. You know, it, it neutralizes a lot of the power that, you know, Steve Stoute, and United Masters might have in that position. But if they can really make something like that happen and create that balance, I think that is a best case scenario for everyone. Now you're getting the best of both worlds, and really benefiting the artist.

Nicky Saunders: 1:08:01

So a little over a time, but I got one clip. So this is this is where this one came from. Right? Um, Dame Dash has always been a very important figure in the culture, right? Everybody has, well, hopefully, everybody if you haven't made link it or something. He had this very famous interview on Breakfast Club, pretty much talking about, you know, ownership and putting up your own money. And you're not a boss, if you don't put up your own money. And they're, his definition of wealth is intriguing to me. Right, I was watching a recent interview. And how he expressed what success in wealth is, is really different than what I expected from him. Because I think maybe in this is just kind of the stereotype of if you're in hip hop, right? If you're in a certain culture, success may mean the amount of businesses you have the amount of money that you have, what is there to show of it, right. And so I wanted to do this clip, kind of the end the podcast, just as a conversational piece of what, what does wealth mean to you kind of vibe. So let's, let's watch this.

Damon Dash: 1:09:42

You know, what is a path? Like there's a goal that everybody wants to get to, right? They want to be rich, or their version of wealthy, but there's a different path to get there for everybody. Not every path is for everybody. And you have to find your path to get to your dream. Now, certain people might go a different path to get to their dream, it doesn't mean I'm going that path and my path, it might take a little longer.

Nicky Saunders: 1:10:11

It cut. Oh, it cut, because if you know Dame, he probably said some crazy. So I had to cut it. So I apologize.

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:10:22

He about to go off on a tangent.

Nicky Saunders: 1:10:24

Right, right. Didn't didn't want to, I don't know, if you have babies around, you know, we try to, we try to keep it as as kosher as I can. I'm just saying, but, um, Moose start this one off.

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:10:41

Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna actually say I agree with him to to a very large degree here. And the reason why is I've never been a fan of any cookie cutter type programs, where every single person has to do the exact same thing every single time. And it's going to produce similar results, you know, way before that, I've always had a thing against it. Because I said, No, I logically, I can see the world from a different lens. But I can also know that there are two different set of directions, I can take and still end up at the same destination. So I don't have to follow that path, if it's not really well tuned, or well created for my work style. Now, I will say this, to some extent, there is some fundamentals that you cannot skip out on. For the most part, there are some fundamentals, you might say work ethic, you might say, like we talked about authenticity, being yourself, there was just some characteristics or some concepts that are included in everybody's formula. But when it comes to your path to generating wealth, that's got to be a little bit more strategic, you got to think about the context of who you are, and where you are. And think about what you're trying to accomplish. And, and put in some different variables there to connect the dots. So that's one of the big pieces now that I've been including, even in many of our of our teachers, Nicky is talking about the importance of context, when you take someone's blueprint, and you're not mindful of the context in which they've created it in, you're going to for sure have some level of success, get some level of momentum, but you're going to hit a wall, because you're not them. And that's the part where some are just intrigued with figuring that out themselves. And others are able to conceptualize of, Okay, here's what I can take from that, because it's well suited for me. But this is where I got to stop. And and it really takes a great level of discipline to say, Okay, I'm gonna stop right here, because that's not going to be well suited for me, regardless of how well is perceived or pitched. That's where people got to create, you know, a bit of a barrier there. But definitely, for the most part, I do agree with what he's saying.

Nicky Saunders: 1:13:04

Yeah, and a little backstory, of course, the person who was asking the question was trying to be messy and was like, Well, you see, there are certain people who are selling their assets selling their businesses, to bigger, bigger companies. And he was, of course, referring to Jay Z, who sold Tidal and Ace of Spades and stuff like that. And first off, I do, I do respect how Dame kind of responded to that. It wasn't super messy, right. But as well as just saying, Look, I'm not paying attention to how people are creating their wealth. I'm paying attention to how I'm creating my wealth. And I'm going to do it in this way. And I'm not necessarily checking how long that would take compared to anybody else. I'm going to run it this way. And if you subscribe to that cool if you don't cool, but I think it also goes based off the conversation of what is the goal? Like what is what is wealth to you? And how do you want to get there? Do you want to sell all this stuff and give it all away for the bag? Does that create the wealth that you want? Or is it the ownership and the residual incomes and things like that? Does that create the wealth for you? What is your definition of wealth? And how is it that you're going to do it? And what I do love about Dame is that he really doesn't pay attention to nobody. Like, he's like, I'm gonna do it this way. And I really don't care what you think. And that's it. Like, I've done a lot, I made and ah man, there was this clip, I wish I would have cut it up. And I know we're little over time, but he was talking about like, yo, the way I do things is to teach others, right? I made Jay a billionaire. I made Kanye a billionaire. I wish the others would be billionaires, but all of them make more than me. And that was the goal of it. Like, I don't do this for myself, I do this, because that is my definition of wealth of making sure other people based off my you know, my experience, my journey, my ways of distributing this then the third, because he has a streaming platform, he has a studio, he's doing his own music just cuz his kids have all businesses, like I'm doing this so they can do more. And then I wanted to cut up that clip. And I didn't, because I felt like we were going to be over time. But the question of are you, a, good leader or less of a leade if the people that you lead, do not surpass you, whether in status or financially? That is my question.

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:16:48

I like that. I like that. Man. Wow.

Nicky Saunders: 1:16:54

Two questions that I've asked in two episodes. We're clipping this up.

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:17:01

That's good. That's good. Now, that's a really good question. I mean, you know, I do believe Of course, it's going to come down to the mission that you're leading yet, right. In some cases, the objective is to make the people better than you. So the point that they are when they when someone arrives at a point of exceeding what you've taught them, or exceeding what you can do for them, while it may feel like Oh, man, you really going to leave us, then actually let you know that your work was successful, or your mission was complete. So in some cases, that's phenomenal. But the flip side of it is, if your leadership style does not create any other leaders, and it's, it's meant to literally put a ceiling over other people's head, then yeah, you got to, you got to take a look in the mirror, because I do believe that every great leader is able to help others fulfill the leadership capacity within themselves, even if they can't be in charge of hundreds of other people, but they can at least reach the ultimate level of what leadership is for that individual. And they helped they you were able to achieve that by the leader that you were following. So I always say if you if you want to grow, follow a good leader.

Nicky Saunders: 1:18:17

I like that. I like that. No, I was, I was thinking about it, because, um, he said, He's like, not all, you know, not all ways of creating wealth is going to be the right way. But the way I do it is the way I do it. And clearly, it's had its perks, because maybe a gem, or two, or maybe this way he does this business, or this advice he gave has obviously duplicated itself in some way, shape or form, like his influence is clearly there somehow, some way, right? And we look at and we've talked about it with the whole when you look at multiple streams of income, like how do you want to get your wealth, and there are people who are saying if you want to make this much, you have to do A, B, C, D, aka this whole real estate thing. Right. And you have to do these things in order to be this wealthy or to reach this status. Right. And each of those people that like those two, there are billionaires, right? But he has a whole bunch of millionaires too. But everybody who's been through his influence, I'm not gonna say his leadership, but his influence clearly, right. They've all done it their own way. You know, Kanye's done his mount of money that was up in the air and we don't know. But he is a billionaire. Shout out to Kanye. He's done it his way where people have doubted his whole vibe with fashion, doubted his way of how he created music doubted a lot of things. He created his way. Jay Z with not only music, but a sport sports ownership agency, streaming services, alcohol, clothing, like he's done it his way. Other artists, Cam'ron all that great stuff, done it their way. And I think that is what is being duplicated that of you are able to make this amount of money by investing in yourself and doing it your way. There's, there's so many other models, but the important model is your model.

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:21:04

Yeah. Yeah.

Nicky Saunders: 1:21:05

And I thought that when he when he was pretty much talking about that, I was like, yo, we've we've, we've shown so many different blueprints of how to create influence, how to create wealth, how to do these different things. But at the end of the day, we have to look and take and still create our own. Yeah, but it breaks down into at the end of the day. What is success? And what is wealth to you?

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:21:40

Exactly. Exactly.

Nicky Saunders: 1:21:44

Yeah, if you have not answered that, then you are chasing something blindly.

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:21:54

You're preaching Nicks. Yeah, you preachin for real.

Nicky Saunders: 1:21:58

That's a whole nother podcast. Look, I told you, we had a lot to talk about. We actually had another clip, but we're gonna leave that one for the live show. We're gonna leave that for the live show. So every Tuesday on YouTube 8pm Easter,n 7pm Central, 5 pm West Coast time on YouTube. Nicky and Moose. You can watch the live show. You get the continuation of this particular episode and just rock with us. We talked to everybody in the chat and everything like that, as well. We haven't mentioned it for a while: flightassessment.com. If you've heard Moose and myself speak about pilot, flight attendant, grounds crew, air traffic control, here and there. And you're like, What are you talking about? That's so random. flightassessment.com, flightassessment.com. Moose, tell them what that is real quick, real quick.

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:23:11

Yeah. Check us out, man. I mean, flightassessment.com. This is an opportunity for you to get to know some of your gifts and talents. on a deeper level. A lot of people think that they know how they are. But if you think about it, as humans, we're able to see everyone and everything in the world. The only person we can't see is ourselves. Flight assessment gives you an opportunity to do that

Nicky Saunders: 1:23:33

Fact. Oh, and super random. Super, super random for those people who are still on listening and watching right? So remember the episode that I was like, I need pants. Remember that?

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:23:45

Yeah,

Nicky Saunders: 1:23:46

Yeah. Hold on. Hold on. Let me let me get it real quick.

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:23:49

Oh, don't tell me you got the pants.

Nicky Saunders: 1:23:50

Somebody... And and they wanted to send it to

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:23:53

I'm telling you. The fact that they picked up on you. So I didn't Don't Don't worry about it. District Clothing, right, they send me pants. I don't know if you see it. District clothing. They send me pretty much like a whole jogger suit. And shirt and hat and everything in wants to send Moose some too. Its just that he's very particular with his address. So I didn't, didn't want to just let you know that it's not. It's not me, it's him And him being very protective o his lifestyle. So we apologize But listen, shout out to you That was that was so dope. Ask nd you shall receive, this craz . that too, like, well, let's get her some pants.

Nicky Saunders: 1:24:44

They were like, yo, hello. Give menyour address. I'm like, here you go. I'm not Moose. So I'm like, here you go. Right. Give me my stuff. I love you. Anyways, Moose, final words.

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:25:05

Yeah, I've been working on this one man and I'm realizing that there is no amount of information that's going to replace the work that you have to do. Right, no amount of information that you receive, listen to, consume whatever it is, no amount of information replaces the work that you have to do. So for you to grow, you have to grow, literally. For you to grow, you have to grow.