Episode 10 - Behind The Eric Thomas' Brand Part 3 With Eric Thomas

Nicky Saunders: 0:00

What's poppin'? What's poppin'? What's poppin'? Welcome to Nicky and Moose! I'm, Nicky! That's Moose! 'Sup Moose?

Mostafa Ghonim: 0:07

What up y'all?

Nicky Saunders: 0:08

And look, you heard we had Karl. You heard we had CJ. If you didn't, go back to those two before you even talk about this one.

Mostafa Ghonim: 0:19

Yeah before this one.

Nicky Saunders: 0:19

Before this one, but we have the man himself, the number one motivational speaker. Google him if you want to. The one, the only, E.T. the Hip Hop Preacher, Eric Thomas. Moose!

Mostafa Ghonim: 0:39

The man that make the legend.

E.T.: 0:40

Aye Moose, you know, I don't like to go here. But uh,...

Nicky Saunders: 0:44

Wait, E! E, wait, wait! Wait, wait, wait. You're not there yet!

E.T.: 0:48

Oh my bad!

Nicky Saunders: 0:50

This the intro!

Mostafa Ghonim: 0:50

You did the same thing CJ did. He talked from behind the stage. He said hey cut my mic on. I'm ready.

Nicky Saunders: 0:56

Moose, Moose. first words. first words. What do you think about my man?

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:01

Life Changing man! Life changing! I mean, I... you know, my whole life story is composed, a big part of it is because of this man. So yeah, life changing. I'll keep it short.

Nicky Saunders: 1:11

Alright, let's get into this intro.

Jaymie Jordan: 1:15

Two kids from Queens, cut from a different cloth. Now joining forces helping you to elevate your personal brand. Yeah, I'm talking about Nicky and Moose! Bringing you a never before seen perspective into the mindset, the mentality, the behaviors, the driving force, but more importantly, the stories behind the people and brands that you know and love the most.

Nicky Saunders: 1:43

Now, before we get into E, you already know we got to do the review of the week. This one's done by Cassandra. I really hope I don't mess up these names. But I think that's right.

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:58

This one's good.

Nicky Saunders: 1:59

I'm good? Hey, I'm good.

Mostafa Ghonim: 2:01

There we go.

Nicky Saunders: 2:02

So this one says, "Wow, just wow! This has got to be my absolute favorite episode thus far! I felt like Karl was talking directly to me because this is my life. I've already listened to this episode a couple of times. I so needed this. I need to "move my mass".

Mostafa Ghonim: 2:27

Move the mass! I loved that part! Move the mass.

Nicky Saunders: 2:31

Yo, I didn't even know what he meant by that. But it was deep. But let's get into, you see him if you're on YouTube. Shout out to our YouTube viewers. But if not you bout to hear E.T. the Hip Hop Preacher, Eric Thomas. What's up E?

Mostafa Ghonim: 2:51

The Mighty Doc!

E.T.: 2:51

What up? What up? What up? Aye! I don't remember what gig it was. But I was doing a ig recently. And the young lady

Mostafa Ghonim: 2:59

No competition! ho was doing the intro, she s id something that was, man, I m an, empowering. She said you're not the number one motivati nal speaker in the world. You are the undisputed number

Nicky Saunders: 3:12

You hear the bomb! You hear the bomb!

E.T.: 3:22

Yeah, you know, I'm into words now. And, you know, words are meaningful, bruh and I think, you know, you've been you've been talking about it Moose for some time now, how one we don't use words properly. Like, what the intent of the word like most of us, I'm just gonna be real. A lot of the words that I learned, I didn't learn them through the dictionary. A lot of the words that I learned, I learned secondhand. You know, I learned hearing them from people. So I'll be honest, I never really went into the dictionary to source. And, you know, I'm saying like, really got the root of the word, the definition of the word. And words have different meanings. But so I've been on this journey of, you know, you need to be very careful of the words that you use the words that you let in, you know, and so that was a word. It wasn't even about competition for me, but it was about you know, really embracing my calling, you know, it's like, yo, yo, you are the undisputed You know, I'm saying heavyweight champion the world. It doesn't mean that, you know, other people who speak don't speak whatever, but it just had it in my space in my world. I don't have to belittle myself or I don't have to play small. You know, I don't have to play small so that other people don't feel no, it's like he let your light shine, bro. You know, and if anything is going to empower other people. So when she said it, I'm not going to lie the way she said it maybe is what she said and how she said it. She said, you know, undisputed... I was like that's an adjective that describes you know, not just my calling, but how potent, you know, my calling is and and what it meant to her. Because she said it. I didn't say it, she said it so, so yeah, man. Good morning to the to the two of you. How you guys doing?

Nicky Saunders: 5:12

Amazing! Amazing! Um first...wait, before we get into it. I think the people...the first question, Moose I know you wanted to go but, what time do you go to sleep?

E.T.: 5:28

Man it's crazy now ya'll like, so Ima answer it in two ways. So Ima answer it you know the first 30 years of my career

9:15 or 9: 5:37

30... you know no later than 10. I'm in a different space now. You know, so I'm in retirement mode. I still probably work as as hard as most humans do. But, but but I probably don't go to bed now until about 10:30 or 11. But

back in my heyday about 9, 9: 5:55

15, or 9:30. You know, I'm saying every, every every day probably except for maybe Saturday night. I might stay up a little later. But during my heyday, 9:15 or

9: 6:07

30 was my go to.

Nicky Saunders: 6:09

Yes. Sorry, Moose. I know you had the whole setup, but that was one of the most requested answers till this day. Like I still read the comments on some, "When you go to sleep? You wake up at three."

Mostafa Ghonim: 6:24

Do you ever sleep?

E.T.: 6:27

Now, I don't. Now it's like... Now I don't. I'll probably get about three or four easy, you know what I'm saying? But in my heydays I needed about six.

Mostafa Ghonim: 6:37

Hmm, a different breed. A different breed indeed. Good stuff! Doc, you know, it's a obviously we're on the verge of a new year. Right? We're preparing for a new year. And a large majority of the people know who at the hip hop preacher is today. What I want you to kind of start in our first question is, talk to us about that first moment of embracing the call, right? Discovering the purpose or this vision, like, what was that? Like? Like where was the starting point for Eric Thomas?

E.T.: 7:16

Yeah, I think it's...I think we have to look at two destinations. You know, one I was on campus, doing a ministry called The Bell Tower ministries, and just being real with you Moose, most people don't know this, but I didn't start as a speaker. I started almost like what would be considered an event coordinator. You know, you had two other guys that was extremely gifted as speakers. Irvin Daphnis, we call him Black and Trey Hayden, we call them Trey. I was kind of like the third wheel, you know, if you will. And so my responsibility was, you know, I was the hype man, knock on the dorms, you know, I would go to the different dorms, cafeteria, you know, and just let people know about the Bell Tower because it was a new ministry, we started on campus. And we really started as an alternative to like the traditional old school stuff, a lot of young people weren't feeling church services, they weren't necessarily feeling some of the, you know, required worship. stuff we had to do in our dorms. So we started something new every Tuesday, Thursday, Sunday.

It was like 7: 8:21

30, at night, in the middle of the campus, it was a bell tower, like some of the, you know, alum from like, maybe 50 years ago, have built this bell tower right in the middle of the campus. So of course, it had to bell and then these seats around you like this stone. And no, so I didn't really get an opportunity to speak like that in the beginning. But what happened was, you know, my boys were like, stupid involved on campus, Trey was with the choir and a couple other things. Irv was like a student leader. So every Blue Moon, they would not show up to the event. So I usually MC'd, you know, hosted, opened up the door for them, introduce them. And so on a couple occasions, they didn't make it. So I had to speak. And I remember my first message was like, how many licks does it take to get to the center of a sucka? And you had a lot of dudes who weren't really feeliing, like the religious thing. They weren't feeling sermons. They grew up in church, went to church schools, so they just weren't really filling it. They finally had their freedom in college. So they necessarily had to get down like that. But when I would speak, cats would be like, Whoa, like, that's different it's raw, you know, I'm saying like, it's raw. It's unconventional, but like, at the same time, it's it? And so it was during that timeframe that I realized, like, Yo, I got something like, I have something that a group of people desire that they want. And then I also ran a GED program in the hood. It was like in our projects, they call them so it was Norwood Mason Court you know? And so I would teach a GED program. But what I would do before we started class is I would read a devotional by Dennis Kimbro, daily, Daily Motivation for African American Success. And a lot of the students would come, they didn't necessarily stay to learn, but they always came for the motivational moments. You know what I'm saying? They be like, Yo E, I can't stay, they always have an excuse, but they will come for that motivation, they will come for that fire. And I started realizing at a young age, I was probably like, 20 or 21, I started realizing like, Yo, I got a different brand of speaking like, you know? It's not, it's not your traditional boy. But a lot of, I don't know, you call them borderline people, everyday type people. They was feeling my, they was feeling my swag. So it was it was there that I realized, like, you know, I got something, and I just realized that I needed ... I needed to work on it, like and do it consistently. So I wouldn't, you know, so I wouldn't lose it one, and then I could build on that momentum.

Nicky Saunders: 11:07

So, so E, um, we on on this podcast have been going in on the flight assessment right? And you have...

E.T.: 11:18

That's my baby. That's my baby.

Nicky Saunders: 11:20

Yeah you have been like the the leader of the flight assessment, but, and you've screamed out, I am a flight attendant, this is who I am. I've embraced it. But talk to the people about before the flight assessment, like, what, what was an E before the flight assessment before he realized who like he really was and totally embraced it? Like, what is the difference?

E.T.: 11:53

Yeah, so let me just be real with you. Okay, so let's look at it like, I like to, I like to create, you know, imagery, right? So, let's just look at it like a car, you know? Before the flight assessment, like, it was a fire, you know, brand new car. You could smell the seats, you know what I'm saying? You got me, C, Karl, you know, in the car, originally. You know me and C originally, then Karl, you know, then we start filling it up Lashana, you know what I'm saying? Ken, you know what I'm saying? We just started filling it up. Atae. So, I mean, we just traveling across the country in this car, you know what I'm saying? Stopping at the gas station, filling up, grabbing snacks, you know? Seeing the world. You know, I'm talking about invigorating. Like, you know, the sunroof open, windows down, music blasting you know what I'm saying? Like listening to our favorite hits, you know? I'm going old school, they going new school, you know? We got snacks in the car, we havin', we havin' an a blast, you know? But I think when we got the flight assessment, we got a GPS system. You know, we ain't have no GPS system, we first got that joker you know what I'm saying? We just drivin', getting lost a little bit, you know? Definitely on the way, but getting lost a little bit. You know, but with the flight assessment, you know, way more control of the vehicle, you know? I've got two children. I tell people all the time, if my son drove 80 miles per hour, I wouldn't be tripping. If my daughter drove 65 I'd be tripping. You know what I'm saying? Why? Because Bug got a little bit more control when he drive than my daughter. Like she ain't have a lot of control of the vehicle you feel me? And so when we got the flight assessment, it was like way more clarity, you know? Way more focus. You know, way more direction. You know what I'm saying? Wwe are able to execute at a much higher level, you know? So so so before the excitement, I mean before the flight assessment, invigorating, you know, life changing, you know, just you know, just hype just, you know? Just all of that but but once we got that flight assessment, way more control, you know? Way more control. Sense of awareness. You know, like I said way more focus, like way more systematic. Like we went from, as I talk about in the video just, being all over the place to becoming snipers. So you know, and it's crazy because when I start something now, I literally begin with the end in mind and then I reverse engineer and then start taking the steps whereas before it was like no steps and just like you get in that get in there push the gas so we wasted a lot of resources wasted a lot of time and a lot of fun. Changed a lot of lives, seen a lot of places, etc, Been around the world and more, you know what I'm saying? But with the flight assessment way more deliberate, way more intentional, way more strategic, you know? And like I said, execute and get way more done and I just think everybody know they role so it's like now, I might have been driving, CJ want to drive, we fightin who want to drive. Karl, every blue moon wanna drive, you know? Now it's like, yo, we know CJ supposed to drive. I'm in the passenger seat doing my thing, Karl in the back supportin'. You know what I'm saying? Just way more clarity man, way more focus man.

Nicky Saunders: 15:11

I'm wit it, I'm wit it. Moose.

Mostafa Ghonim: 15:17

Yeah, Doc, talk to the people, man for those who either have never been introduced to the flight assessment, who have or who have taken it like 10 or 15 years ago and have a bias towards it like, "Ah, I already know what I am" right? So talk to us about maybe in your own words, how would you describe what it is?

E.T.: 15:37

I don't know if it's about I know who I am. You know? Um, because had I taken a test? You know, I've never even thought about it Moose until you just said it. But, I mean, you gotta think about it. I never took a test or an assessment in isolation. You know? I took it with a gang, with a family, you know what I'm saying? It was a bunch of us. You know, so figuring out, you know who I am, if I'm the quarterback, if I'm the running back, if I'm the wide receiver, you know? If I'm a linebacker, safety, you know what I'm saying? Figuring that out was important, because it's like, we're a family, we're a team. And now I was like, who should be on the bus? You know, where should we be sitting? And what should we be doing? So I would just say to me, Moose, it's not about you. You know, if anybody's taking it, and it's just about them yeah, that's probably why you took it and didn't get nothing from it. But when you are just trying to discover your world, you know, who are the players in your world? What are the strengths? What are the limitations, you know? Who should be.. who should be doing what, so we can win this game? You know what I'm saying? So we can win this game called life, so we can get the most out of life? You know, who am I? Who is my wife? Who's my son, my daughter? You know, who are the people on my staff? So yeah, if you took it by yourself, and it was just about, oh, I'm a this I'm a that, yeah it probably... I don't know because I ain't take it by myself. It's probably wack. But if you doing it with, if you're doing it with a family, a group of people that you love, that you care for, and you're trying to make sense of your world, a trying to put everybody you know, in the most effective roles, so you can get the most out of them and the most out of life. Yeah bruh, I would say to anybody who don't want to be average, good, you want to be great are phenomenal. You know, when you realize that no man or woman is an island, and you want to be a part of a community and you want to contribute, you know, and again, you want to win and not just went once, but you want to win twice, three times, like you want to dynasty you want to create a legacy, Yo, I would say take the assessment. So for me, bro, it's not about just me. Of course yeah, I'm a flight assessment like Nicky said, like, that's what I do, I mean a flight attendant. Like, that's what I do. I'm a people person, you know what I'm saying? Like, I love to get involved and engaged with people. I like to share my opinions. Like, you know, I'm very emotional, of course, but not on an island that's in the context of a family of a team. You know, so yeah, if you are you taking the joker, and it's just about you, and you like a... it's like a class, of course, it's not gonna work. But if you're doing it to explore, to discover, you know, I'm saying? You know, to take your life to the next level, then I would say, you got to come back and do this thing again. And this time when you do it, I'm saying do it right, don't do it independently or selfishly, do it in the context of a community or the context of a family.

Nicky Saunders: 18:23

We gonna do these these horns all day again! E, so let's, let's talk to the people who may be confused about the flight assessment. Like, alright, I want to know about E and E's brand and everything. So let's bring it back to the basics of you knew you had some special, you know, like your people person, you had a gift, right? When did you fully embrace that and said, you know, what, this could be a thing? Even before the flight assessment and really being able to strategically move in that way. Right? But was there a particular day, situation, event that you were like, Okay, this isn't bad. Like me, being who I am isn't bad. This is actually going to impact the world. Is there a particular day or situation for that?

E.T.: 19:29

So let me say this, I truly believe in all my heart, that we all have something. You know, and when people take the test, they'll know what I'm talking about. And what's so crazy, you know, Nicky is it's only four personalities, and of course, you know, combinations, some blends, you feel me? But for the most part, everybody born with that. When you look at E.T., you like yo E.T. got that je ne sais quoi, he just got that it. We all got it y'all. I'm just being real. But here's what happens. Some of us, we recognized it and we foster it. And so for me, fast forward to the flight assessment, all that was was me saying I got to continue to develop what I know already have. Because it's not one of those things where you find out what you have and you use it and it's just it. You don't have to develop it no more. It's just like, Yo, I found out what I am I use it, I'm good to go. It doesn't work like that. And then when you start switching up with different people, you start switching up with different environments, like you know what I'm saying? So that's why you got to keep studying because I wasn't with Nicky 20 years ago. I wasn't with Moose 20 years ago. I wasn't with Karl 20 years ago. I went with CJ 20 years ago. So the reason why you got to keep studying is because you're getting around new people and you in new environments. I was... wasn't no social media when I first started doing this. But let me let me be real with y'all because what a lot of y'all don't know is when I first discovered my gift, it was rough because I wasn't in the right environment with my gift. So let me just explain something to you guys. You got to imagine I went to Oakwood University, which is a which is which is a unique HBCU. These are kids who come from all over the world, not just, not just America, they come from all over the world. And most of them have gone to, you know, a specific high school, middle school, elementary school, they whole life. They've gone to their, you know, their own schools. And then Oakwood is like the only black Adventist college in the world. You know, and so these kids come from all over, I'm talking about geniuses. Strong in math and science, you know, engineering, like lawyers, doctors, like unbelievable, you know? Some of my friends that I went to school with, they doing some amazing things. You have to understand that I came in as high school dropout. So when I discovered this gift to speak, it was difficult at Oakwood, because I didn't have a language they had. I felt inferior. There were some historical language codes rules they was using, you got to imagine he's he has been with each other since they were, you know, 5, 6, 7 years old. And a lot of them went to boarding school together. So imagine they left they parents and they in a boarding Academy together so they got a relationship out of this world. It's funny Moose. I never talked about this. But um, you know, because these kids went to different schools one of their, I don't know what you call it traditions. But at each school, and I think about it now it's like, Yo bro, it's crazy. But they literally all wore sweaters. So like they had Letterman jackets from high school. But it was sweaters and so each school had their own different sweater. And so they would rock their sweaters on like a Tuesday, everybody. You feel me? Everybody had on they sweater bruh like they Richie Rich sweater. You feel me? So it's like the long Letterman sweater. And they had they nicknames on it, they had they school colors. I'm walking around as a high school dropout, bro. I don't got jack. I don't got a t shirt, you feel me? I don't got a T shirt. And so just being in that environment around people who took school serious since they was like, in kindergarten, I just felt inferior. And so even though I had a gift, I was very apprehensive about using my gift. But let me tell you what I did that changed the game for me. We had, our saying was, "Enter to learn, depart to serve." So what I would do is go into the hood. And when I was in the hood, serving. When I started speaking in the hood, like the hood loved me, you feel me? And it was in that environment that I was like, Yo, I got something. So I never really craved you know, being on a college campus trying to compete with other people. I actually got strong on campus, off campus. So when I would go into people's homes and talk to them one on one, sit on the curbs with cats, and we would chop it up at the basketball court, I'd sit on the bench hollin' at the little shorties while they was waiting to get in next. And that's where I start honing my gifts like I ain't hone my gift on stage, I hone my gift on the block. And so for a lot of us, you're gonna you're going to discover who you are. But I'm telling you, this test is important. But this assessment is important. But what's also important is the environment, right? It's going to show you what environment you thrive in, you know, I'm saying? Who you thriving wit, like it's gonna take the guessing game out. And for a lot, y'all. Your biggest problem is you don't know what your what your purpose is in life. I'm telling you within a 15 minute, you take 15 minutes, take this boy and I promise you all of the questions you got, they're gonna be over. And so for me, I got a chance to be around young people who were doing it. And so me not being as smart as them, but I'm as competitive as them. You know, I'm saying? I'm from the block. So I'm competitive. So I'm seeing him speak and I started speaking realize I got something but again, I felt inferior on the college campus. So I took it off campus. And off campus is where I started to shine. And again, a lot of y'all, you know me as a public speaker, but if you ain't been in a room with me one on one it's one thing I do on stage, it's something I totally I do when I'm sitting across when I'm sitting across the desk from you, like I'm in a prison. I'm talking to a kid one on one or small group. That's where I really shine. So when you think the stage is where I shine, that's not where I shine. I shine one on one, small groups like that's when I can really get intimate. You could feel my heart because I know what my gift is my gift ain't speaking, my gift is connecting with humans with people. Speaking is just a is one of the vehicles for me to do that. But it's but it's not my call and it's not my gift. So yeah, Nicky I college is where, you know what I'm saying? College is where it's like, yep, got it. Yep, but not on the college campus, I need to take it somewhere else. And when I got in that environment and start just dealing with regular everyday folks, single parent, women who got pregnant, you know? Dudes who in and out of prison, people who sell dope people who was hopeless, like I felt my "Ah", you know what I'm saying? I felt like home court advantage in that Joker. So I don't want people to think that I was always confident with this gift. I wasn't. Like I said, in the college, on the college campus around all those smart guys. I had a very, I was very intimidated. I was very timid. You know, I was very nervous, almost afraid when I would speak on campus. But again, I took it to an environment where I felt comfortable. And when I felt comfortable in that environment, I know this may sound crazy Nicky. But being comfortable in that environment allowed me to come back to campus and be comfortable in an environment where I felt uncomfortable, I guess getting my reps in, you know, where I felt comfortable allowed me to be able to speak even in environments where I didn't feel comfortable.

Nicky Saunders: 26:32

That's good. That's, that's good.

Mostafa Ghonim: 26:35

So we had, we had Karl and CJ on the last two episodes, kind of giving their rendition of, you know, how the company started. Now I want people to kind of get an update in terms of how you've transitioned the business and the brand, through a pandemic, but you also started the company really, during the recession in a way. So give us your rendition or you know, your kind of breeding ground and story from going from Bell Tower Ministries, Oakwood University, to now saying, okay, we're gonna go from me to we with a team, a company, a brand and, and launching this whole thing.

E.T.: 27:11

Yeah, well, you know, Oakwood, Bell Tower, was definitely, you know, we. Me, Irv, Trey, it was about 12 of us, you know, you know? So those were the similarities. But I think the difference between you know, Bell Tower and then the first recession that we did our work from and this is the assessment, you know? And, and, you know, I think Karl and I started TGIM, you know? And in that process, bruh it was just kind of like, like I said, it's like, you just shooting in the air and you hoping you hit something. And again, don't get me wrong, you could tell from TGIM we did hit some stuff. But if you look guys closely at how we started, and then you begin to look at how we transition, you'll see that a lot of it was just guessing games, it was like, I don't know, if you guys are familiar with this term, you kind of young, but you know, on-the-job training. You know, that's what it was, in the beginning. It was on-the-job training. It was kind of like, okay, we have an idea and then we go. Like, we didn't have a plan, if that makes sense. We kind of had ideas, we kind of saw the big picture. And then from the big picture, we kind of made our moves. But when you look at this recession, you're looking at E.T., I'm way more intentional and deliberate. Way more strategic, it's like, okay in this recession, we're literally giving the people a sense of direction. You know, like, like, it's like, Okay, we got a pandemic going on, people all over the place. You know, we're divided as a nation. So people need to learn how to make better decisions, right? And so it's like, okay, people are making decisions because of what and I don't know if this is a word, but you know, "COVID-19 fatigue", you know what I'm saying? Or being "stuck in the house fatigue". Like people are finally getting to the point where it's like, yo, we thought you're gonna be over in 30 days, 60 days. So really giving people an opportunity to say, Okay, what should I be doing? So we literally, if you go on, on our page, not just videos, Nicky, you, you'll see even our memes, now we're getting like, almost 30,000 hits. Because it's direction. It's telling people like, yo, here's what you shouldn't be doing. Here's what you should be doing. Here's what you should be letting happening. Here's what shouldn't be happening. I think Moose we did some research on people. And we're now helping people, you know, also to figure out, yeah, you need to be around people, but what people do, you need to be around? You feel what I'm saying? So way more direction, then there's a pace that we need to go at. We're showing people like Yo, you need a success routine. Like you just can't wake up in the day and just go for it like there's a success routine you need. And then the final one is systematic. Again, we're helping people through the assessment, find their own system like find... It's like, yo, we do things a certain way and we're telling you, you need to do things a certain way, but we're not gonna tell you how you need to do it, what's best for you. But what you do need a system. You do need to be a little bit more analytical in these timeframes. Why? Because some of the resources we had before some of the opportunities we had before we don't have no more, including E.T. People think I'm above this COVID situation. I'm not we not. You remember, I don't know what percent Nicky, but a large percent of our income came from traveling it came from, I didn't even know there was such thing as social distancing. But we did 1,000 people, 5,000 people, I spoke to 10,000 people, I did international work. And so all that was taken from me. So now systematically, it's like, okay, E, those doors are closed, but use a system to figure out what other doors are open, and what other way... So Moose, this, this pandemic, or this particular recession again, we're way more intentional and deliberate, and we're able to lead people in four categories. Whereas before, I'm sure we was, bro, we was taking shots, I'm sure we was hitting something, but we might have been like, the old Kobe that was like... Kobe was like, what? 20 for 55 you feel what I'm saying? 25 for 53? Now we're like, we like 20 for 22, bro. Like, we're way more effective and way more efficient because we're operating in a system and not necessarily operating, and in what somebody might call, you know, just osmosis bruh. We just, we just hoping, just wishing, you know what I'm saying?

Mostafa Ghonim: 31:29

Yeah that's good.

Nicky Saunders: 31:36

We're here.We're here. So let me piggyback a little bit on that when you brought up the events. So, clearly, um, you've been the flight attendant, like, events is gone. Talking, like touching the people is gone, right? Talk to people, I don't like using the word pivot. But that has been the word of the word of the year. Yeah. Um, talk to people about the pivot that you had to make, from touching the people physically, to now a virtual standpoint, like, how did that affect you? The brand? Like just talk to the people about that process?

E.T.: 32:23

Well, you know, what, um, you know, I realized by the, you know, the blessing of this assessment, is that for every strength, Nicky, we have a limitation. So what I wanted to be able to do was say, okay, maybe this is a time to address those limitations. You know? So I'll give me an example. You know I do go to bed, you know, and wake up kind of early, I don't get a lot of rest, you know? I do grind quite a bit. So I kind of looked at the season, and it's okay, well, maybe this is the season to do the opposite. Since the opportunity to travel isn't there, maybe this is the time to get a little bit more rest, maybe this is the time to be a little bit more strategic, you know, maybe this is the time to have way more planning sessions and, and thinking things through and being more systematic than you've ever been before. You know, so that was that's number one. That was the first thing I thought about was like, okay, just because these doors are closing for you which ones are open, you know? Number two, I felt like I got closer to the staff. I had way more time to, like get on the phone, make phone calls, way more time to Zoom, you know? Way more time like to build us, because we know the doors are gonna open up again. But the question is, are we going to be the same version of ourselves that we were before the doors closed? Or we going to be a greater version of ourselves when the doors open? So for me, it was like yo...there are opportunities, it may not be the ones that you are accustomed to, or the ones that you prefer, but during this time frame of pivoting, I look at the areas that as you. And I don't know if this makes sense, guys, but it's almost a situation like... let's look at Kobe, for instance. You remember when Kobe broke his leg? And when Kobe trained, he was actually building that leg up, but what he wasn't doing was building the other. So what happens is once he started playing again, he actually ended up injuring that leg that he didn't even injure in the first place because he had put so much on the one. And so I figured Nicky like, yo, E, you've been putting a lot of emphasis on one side of your strength. You need to look at the other side that you have not been really focusing on which again is rest, which is reading and studying, you know? Which is planning and developing, you know? Which is strategizing, you know? Those are the things you weren't doing and then these other thing to Nicky like really going... Okay, I hope this makes sense. Like, same relationships, but more depth than width. You know, because when we was on the road before we would see each other a lot, but we was moving. You know what I'm saying like we'd be in a city like we'd be working two days out of that. We might hook up maybe at the end of the event and even with that you talking about a whole room full of people trying to catch up with each other. Now, it wasn't that it was bad, but the reality is, now I can go deep down, I can spend some quality time. You know, Moose and I, the last couple of weeks, I think maybe on Friday, we spent maybe 15 or 20 minutes not talking about business, just chopping it up... I never did that, Nicky. I ain't have no time for that. I ain't have no time to sit down and talk about life. You moved... you moved? I wouldn't even know he moved you know what I'm saying? Back in the day, I wouldn't even know like, Oh, you moved? It would have been like a year later. Oh, I heard you moved Moose. Yeah, I did. Like I wouldn't have known that. You know, so now I'm getting an opportunity to really sit down, study all of the preferences. And now when I'm dealing with my staff, and dealing with, you know, everybody else, you know, it's like, I know how to approach them differently now, because the assessment shows me whatever. I just never had time to do that before. I knew how important it was. I knew how critical it was to know Nicky's language, to know Moose's language. I just didn't, I just didn't have time to do it. You know or let me say this. I didn't make time when things were just going phenomenal for us. But as we've had to pull back from the travel, now I'm getting I'm getting an opportunity to to, to strengthen parts of us and divisions of us that are critical that I just never made time to before.

Nicky Saunders: 36:30

That's good. That's...that's good. That's lessons. That's lessons.

Mostafa Ghonim: 36:37

Yeah Sure. For sure. Doc, I've had...

E.T.: 36:40

I'm sorry Moose. I believe when we do come back together, this is just my belief. I believe we're gonna be way stronger and better. And also, I don't know if y'all did this, but I didn't know I was doing this. But I literally took a lot of stuff for granted.

Nicky Saunders: 36:55

Yes.

E.T.: 36:56

I mean, we was on the road every you know, two three times. I mean, personally, I was on the road probably about 15 times, 10 or 15 times a week. I mean, a month. I'm saying as a group, we were together, I mean, come on y'all between the flight assessment, between us doing it at the property, people coming in and get training, either our coaches that are veterans or a new trainees that were coming to the facility to get one on one, you know, in person training, whether it was church events, whether it was on the road, whether it was podcast. Like we was together all day every day. You feel me? And I took for granted that yeah, we just gone be able to get on the road, come spend time together, chop it up, eat, you know, go to see the movie, what did we go see? Harriet Tubman together. Like I just took it for granted. We in the theater, we done bought the theater out, we in there chillin. I took all that for granted. And so once we get back to the road, I promise you it's gonna be it's gonna be like eating the last, you know, the last bowl of cereal, the last Captain Crunch. Last Captain Crunch in the building, you know, so I'm looking forward to getting back. I'm not gonna lie. I'm at fatigue right now. Um, it's just literally me and my wife. You know, literally Jada's come in, in a couple of days, but for the for the Christmas holiday. But it's just been literally me and my wife. And while I enjoy it, it's just never been, even Christmas I mean Thanksgiving, it was just me and her. That's never happened before. So it's getting a little you know, it's getting us getting getting getting a little hectic, you know what I'm saying? But hopefully we'll be out of this thing in about another four or five months.

Nicky Saunders: 38:38

Hopefully sooner. Sheesh

E.T.: 38:42

I'm hearing May.

Mostafa Ghonim: 38:42

It's a flight attendant's worst nightmare. Man, man, Doc, you know, I've had both the blessing and the privilege to co create programs with you to sit in on certain trainings or share certain frameworks within trainings. And I think the one part that we really discovered, or at least that I've noticed through what you do is how much of the success journey being an inside out process. So while we talk a lot about the flight assessment and how it helps you to discover your purpose, find your strengths, do a lot of things. You know, like you said, nurture that process. We also learned that we're not naive of the limitations. Can you talk to us a little bit more about this season, how you're starting to kind of be more mindful of the limitations and how that inside... like we talked about inside out process, how you taking care of the limitations on the inside is now helping you to see success externally on a whole new level.

E.T.: 39:44

I think one of the most frustrating things about success is building man and then you being the same person that tear it down you know? It's so frustrating Man to you know had a superpower. I remember the movie Hancock you know where Will Smith was, you know character and my man was super power phenomenal. But he just had, you know what I'm saying? He just couldn't get it together, you know what I'm saying? And would be doing some dumb, stupid, destructive stuff. Think about the movie The Incredibles, you know, the cartoon, animated boy, The Incredibles. Like, Incredibles would be doing phenomenal stuff but then some rookie Incredibles, you know, would mess up, you know? And so I think I've been so I've been so moved Moose by the pursuit of perfection, not perfection, because we'll never get there. But the pursuit of perfection. And I hate building something up and being the same person that tear it down. And I realize when you don't address your limitations, that's what you do. You know, on this side, you may build something up, but then you're the same person and tear that thing down. And I don't want to be that guy, I want to be the guy that of course, I'm not gonna be perfect, and I'm gonna make mistakes. And I'm going to own those mistakes, but I don't, but I don't want to tear down what we built up. And you see so many ministries, and so many individuals, you know, who build stuff and tear down or you find you find communities that build together, but then once they get to the heart of success they divide, they separate. It's like, like, they built it together, but they can't keep it together. You know, and I don't want to be that guy. Man, I don't want to be the guy that we build all this great stuff. But success divides us that people now start

Mostafa Ghonim: 41:29

That's good. having, you know, these, this self ambition. You know, and these self goals. There's nothing wrong with having individual goals and wanting to accomplish something meaningful within your space. There's nothing wrong with that. But when it becomes about you, when we built it, I don't I just don't want that bro. So those are the two things. I want to continue to build, build up and keep building. And I want to keep building together. Like I don't want to look up. And it's like, yo, we've been together for three years, oh, we've been together for five years, and we've been together for like, I want to be like yo 15, 20. Like I really enjoy being able to say this company has been in existence this long. And these people came this year. And this is the anniversary, if that makes sense. you feel me? Like it's this person's anniversary, not we had to get a brand new videographer, we had to get brand new, you know, I'm saying like, I'm not interested in that, bro. Like, I want to build with the people that we built with at whatever stage and I want to keep building with those people. And that's what the assessment allows me to do. It allows me to go hey E, these are the things that you do well, that are going to attract people to you. These are the things that you do that are going to make the same people who loves you despise you. Be cautious of these. And then there's some things that you can't, how do I how do I say this? There's certain things you can't stop from happening if you want it to Moose. But what you do now is you you compliment yourself by bringing a person in your sphere of influence, who does not have that limitation. So instead of building a whole bunch of people who think like me, act like me, I have my preference. A part of my success is not only attracting people who are like me, it's also attracting peop e who are not like me, becau e they have strengths that I don t have if that makes sense.

Nicky Saunders: 43:25

Um, okay, so there are a lot of people who listen to this and watch this who have a brand and is at a point of building a team. Right? Now we've been screaming to death to flight assessment. But when you started building your team, you didn't have that. If you could do it again, what, with the flight assessment, what type of person would you hire first?

E.T.: 44:04

Air traffic control

Nicky Saunders: 44:06

Break that down.

E.T.: 44:07

Air traffic control no doubt. Air traffic control because no general contractor begins building a building without an engineer. That engineer is gonna get him a blueprint.

Nicky Saunders: 44:19

Break that down.

E.T.: 44:24

So so no general contractor even though he is the he is the lead at a project. Alright. He or she has deleted the project. It is what it is. They they are the contractor. You know what I'm saying? They manage that whole site, the project, they manage everything. But prior to them, being able to get started and do their job they need an engineer who can take their big vision and put that vision on paper. "Write the vision make it plain." Because people can't begin to support you, in your big vision, without seeing it on paper without seeing the steps. People need steps. So if I'm going to build a 13 story high rise, like I need, I need to know the dimensions of every room, what are the dimensions of every aspect. You know, I need to know, wall, you know, it's just a lot that I need to know. I gotta bring in different individuals to help support this, whether it be the bricklayers, whether it be whether it be city, you know, the licensing, like it's a lot of players involved. So without that document, we can't move forward. You know, I was looking at Thanksgiving, and they were showing all the planes, I think most It was probably over 10,000 planes in the sky. When I tell you, that image was like, Whoa, well, you can't send 10,000 plus pilots and co pilots in the earth without a plan or system. 10,000 people, they kill themselves, everybody be running into each other. So you need an air traffic control to say, yo, guys, yeah, 10,000, we good, we're gonna send all these up. But you need to know what time to take off, you know what time to land, you didn't know how to fly, you didn't know which direction to go. Not only do you have to get to your destination, we have to make sure that the other 10,000 planes that are also trying to get to their destination, don't crash into one another. So now knowing what I know about the flight assessment, it must start, it must start with the air traffic control. And that was the one thing we didn't have. So there was no way for us to measure or quantify what type of success we were having. If we were having any success, or measure where we measure our growth, you know, or whatever. I don't know what is the opposite of not growth is but whatever that is, we needed to be able to measure and we weren't measuring anything. So we kept making the same mistakes. Or we kept getting the same success without you know, without knowing what that success was. So yeah, so yeah, yeah, we could do it all over again, grateful for CJ and his leadership. But C needed a blueprint, a plan for his leadership, if that makes sense.

Nicky Saunders: 47:12

That's good. Moose, can we acknowledge that he doesn't know the opposite of growth because he's done so much of it that he does not. He's like growth...whatever the other thing of growth, isn't. Yeah, but I've never experienced it. But that thing.

E.T.: 47:34

Whatever that is.

Mostafa Ghonim: 47:35

I love it. I love it. I love it. So yeah, whatever that is, I don't even know. I forgot about that. It's been a minute. We all strive to be there. That's good. That's good. Yeah, Doc Doc, on that same breath of team talk to us about the balance of power that happens. Because I think one of the things that people may struggle with is, well, I'm the idea person, or I'm the driver, what do you mean, I gotta start with the air traffic control or any of those things, right? What's the balance of power, so that we can avoid those things that create division, right, like you said, ego, animosity, jealousy, individualism? What's the balance of power that protects that, so that people can build for the long term?

E.T.: 48:18

The balance of power, is what protects that. The balance of power. Understanding that no one human has been designed to do at all? It doesn't make sense. There's no team.. Kobe Bryant, okay, yeah, he scored 80 something points. But somebody else scored some points too. Somebody who's got some rebounds, and somebody had to defend somebody, and somebody else got assist, and somebody else got some steals. It wasn't those 82 points alone that won the game for them. It was his 82 with the collaboration of the other team members, whatever they did on defense, offense, you know, whatever they did, however, they contributed before after the game, you know, during the game, even if they didn't play in your cheerleading on the sideline, and you're giving people energy, that's all a part of what it took to successfully, you know, win that game. And so everybody has to understand that with your strengths comes a corresponding limitation. And with your strength alone is not enough to get what needs to get done. Done. It's just not enough. you're by yourself is not enough, if that makes sense at speaking, man. I tell people all the time, like again, I say this much respect to CJ. But if Karl wasn't physically cutting, editing, and posting those videos up on social media, right, nobody would know who we are today. I was there was an ETA before Karl. And that E.T. to me was just as powerful if not... in terms of messages. But nobody got them. They never went out to the world. Nobody recorded. Nobody put it up. So you feel what I'm saying. So yeah, you could say Oh, E.T., undisputed, number one motivational speaker in the world. Okay, that's cool. But without Karl, nobody knows who Eric is. And without Karl, nobody knows. How do I say this? Nobody can keep going back to the messages. Like when I grew up, if I would speak back when I was 20 or 21, you hear the message live. That's pretty much it. You might can get an audio cassette tape, but bro cassette tapes, not durable like that, you know what I'm saying? Like, you're not going to be able to keep up with that forever. Karl put that sucker on the World Wide Web and now whenever you want to, you can keep going back and watching "When you want to succeed as bad as you want to breathe and you'll be successful." Shout out to Karl.

Nicky Saunders: 50:43

Shout out to Karl. Shout out to Karl. E, you've been doing this for a few years, just a few, just quite a few. Right? Um, I think a lot of people want to know, what keeps you going like Why? Why are you still grinding you have been titled, the undisputed motivational speaker of the world. You've, the you know, financially your good, family's good, everything like that. You're now in a brand new house and all that great stuff. What What keeps you with the grind? Like you're still waking up at three, you still, you know, we're doing multiple certifications we're doing, you know, still doing the events. So almost now every month, almost the same schedule as if it was live. Like what what is that thing?

E.T.: 51:40

It was a flight attendant. I don't get on a plane to go on the trip. As a flight attendant, I get on the plane, to make sure those who are headed to a certain destination have the most pleasant experience. Like that's what I do. And so I think with the flight assessment, we're actually helping more people with their experience than ever before, which is why I'm excited because like I said before, we were doing our thing randomly. But now we have a system that we know if people plug into that system, they're going to get the same success that we're getting. So in terms of my my I eat, I sleep I breathe people's experience. I don't want people to be in toxic relationships, like I don't want people to be mentally and emotionally unhealthy. I don't want people to be broke, I don't want people to have a bad credit score. Like my job is your experience, like I've been put on this earth to make sure that you're not just on the earth, that you don't just have life, but you have it more abundantly like that's what I'm here for, like your experience, that's what I do, I literally get on the plane, to make sure that when you get in your seat, and you're headed to your destination, that it is the most pleasant experience that you'll ever have. Like, that's my And so again, with this assessment, I'm able to do it in a way that I've never been able to do it before. You know, and so it's not about my house is not about my career, it's not about my bank account, I was literally put on this earth to one, live it so that you can know as possible, and then show you how I did it. You know, and so with the with these platforms, even with this platform, you guys are using it to really entice people and help people to understand and persuade people like yo you need to take this like, like when people ask me what book you read, I'm saying you should be taking the assessment and read the book of me. And what does that mean? Like you should be reading about you and learn about you. Why are you studying other people so much like when you go study yourself and get to know you so that you can have more control of you your gifts, your life, your decision making just everything you do. So that's why I do it. Because I was called to make sure that everybody has a phenomenal experience that comes into our presence. If you don't fly with us, I can't say I can't help you, if you don't fly with us, but if you fly with us, they will make sure that you had the best experience while you're here, you know, on this earth. And that's what moves me. Yo did we do the videos Nicky? Did the videos get out? Did the videos get out right? Was the font right? Why? Because everything affects people's experience. And I just want to make sure that while we're on this earth, that they had the best experiences ever and with you guys support, especially Beastmode Digital, we're going to be in a position where even when I leave this earth, we'll still have content to be able to give the people the experience that they were able to get you know their parents or grandparents while I was physically here on Earth. So I guess for me too, I'm racing against time like Yo, I don't know how many more years I have. So I want to be able to put out the most purest, the best content so in my absence, people could still get that same energy that you guys have preserved, crystallize and memorialize, you know, through through the digital platform.

Mostafa Ghonim: 54:50

Yeah Doc, bring us home man. I mean, it's it's a it's been a phenomenal episode just kind of listening in and what I always admire most is your progression man is like, I always just think like, there's no way E can get any better. And there's always you figure out some some way somehow to look for the next opportunity to figure the next area of growth. So I can advance a little bit here. And I realized that at your level, like just a 1% improvement can make a radical shift. So bring us home with you know, what's next? What's the, what's the, what's entail? What, what does the vision entail, you know, for this next year, and yeah, close us out.

E.T.: 55:29

I think what's next, and this may sound weird. What's next is focusing more on the micro and less on the macro. You know, I think as I go into 2021, I know I need to do a better job of taking the same energy, the same resources that I would give to the world and give to the team. You know, I think sometimes I think because the team is with me, you know, that they're moving with me. And everybody's not moving the same way. And I think, with the systems now that we have, if we can get our staff tight work, and our staff could double the work or triple the work that we're doing, like, just think about if our staff right now you got some 1% or some sick 20 something percenters or some 6 something percenters. We need everybody to be two percenters and three percenters, you know what I'm saying collectively. Just think about how much more we're gonna be able to do on the earth. So I think I want to shift my focus from macro to micro, and spend more time doing the same thing I do for the world, doing that for our family, our team, you know, the ETA family, you know, and I just feel like, if I put more time into helping them grow, then when they actually do the work that they do, they're gonna do it at a different level they've ever been able to do it before. So that's my focus for for this year, really, working with leaders, you know, working with the people that work with the people, as opposed to just worrying about the experience of the people. I want to train and develop people who work with people, if that makes sense. I want to work with the leaders that work with the people.

Nicky Saunders: 57:11

Moose, can I ask one more question? Can I ask one

Mostafa Ghonim: 57:14

Oh go for it. Yeah yeah, go for it. more question?

Nicky Saunders: 57:17

E you've been a words person for bit? And for 2021, what is going to be a word?

E.T.: 57:28

Yeah so, "decisive". You know, I realize that only 12% of the world naturally understands the importance of that word, or how critical that word is, as an 88%, kind of shy away from it. But the reality is, you will have limited success in your life, if you're not decisive. And again, I'm not trying to bully you into being decisive over a specific thing. But what I am saying is, you really do need to determine what is it that you are here for. What do you what do you what are you on this earth for? What do you what are you called to do? What are you going to do? You know, and I mean, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, I'm not talking about over a 50 year, like what you're gonna do today? And you really need to decide, what am I going to do today? So I'm going to help people this year, through words, because words are powerful words, either break us or heal us. You know, words, determine our mental and emotional wellness words determine what type of success we have, we don't have what type of, you know, health or sickness, we have. Like words are the most powerful thing. I mean, you think about Moose, if you speak a different language than me, and I don't know the language you speak, we can't even communicate. Like we can't even have a relationship. You know, this is how powerful words are. So we need to do a better job of using our words to guide our lives. So this year is like, Yo, I don't care who you are, you need to be decisive. You need to set a course. And stick to that doggone course, right. And so that's my word for myself. My word for you. I was fortunate. And hopefully for those of you who are listening, you still have time, you're live, you still have time because we record. But the last session that we did for the rebuild series future, like Anthony Flynn, who is by nature decisive, is going to help you. He helped me, he helped the team. And this is deep, y'all because I believe we're seeing another level of success because I'm being decisive. And then I bring my team with me to see what I'm going to be decisive about in 2021. Once they understand what I'm going to be decisive about two years ago was about being inspiring. I wanted to be the most inspiring person in the world as a result of that. Nicky was like, well, the festival gonna happen. You're gonna have to decide even though you don't like to, you're gonna have to decide to do these things. Right and look at me, I'm in my office. Like I've had to make a decision to get an office to set the computer up myself to set the camera up, you know, and when I say by myself, of course Nicky and them are walking me through it, but they're not here to help me like they were before. You know, I got my light right here like guys, I had to be decisive like Yo, E, if you're going to, if you're going to survive in this Zoom world, that maybe before you didn't have to be a deep digital dude, but you don't have to be a digital dude now, so I just had to make some decisions. So a lot of you your challenges, you're not being decisive, you're not, you're not setting a course and sticking to that, and I'm going to help you this year. So make sure you get the replay of Rebuild it's not if you're watching this, and we're not in 2021 yet, you still have a chance to do it.

Nicky Saunders: 1:00:52

Rebuildseries.com

E.T.: 1:00:54

Future, you want all of them, but Future is the one I'm talking about right now in terms of we use all of December to get decisive to to not be all over the place but to decide what we were going to focus on. And then we can switch it up and we go move on that you know in 2021 So yeah, that's that's that's it. That's it man. Thank you guys, man. This has been...You know, anytime I do this, I have to listen to myself I have to think I have to reflect and so you know, some things I said I was gonna do. I'd like to listen to this six months later and see if I actually you know, did what I said so let's have a watch party. You know, maybe at the end of the third quarter, let's have a watch party go over this again. And let's talk about the stuff that we talked about and see how far we've gotten somewhere in between March and April.

Nicky Saunders: 1:01:43

Can we talk about how crispy you look? I just want to acknowledge the, like I said...

E.T.: 1:01:50

I been working. I commited to get there but we got there for y'all.

Nicky Saunders: 1:01:53

All my all my podcast audio people I need you real quick to just click on YouTube and see how crispy E is like even with the background and shout out that Iconics with the the canvas and everything like that but crispy. I don't know any other motivational speaker that's looking this crispy. That's just, you know, that's just me and my my opinion.Ya mean? Ya mean?

E.T.: 1:02:20

And you have an opinion.

Nicky Saunders: 1:02:22

Yeah, you know, one or two of those one or two. First off announcements. Listen, every Tuesday 7:30pm right Moose? We got a new time. I got to remember this new time.

7:30pm Eastern, 6: 1:02:36

30pm Central, some time West Coast because I can never remember it. Facebook Live me and Moose are always on there to talk to the people give you a preview of what's new and kind of talk about teamwork, trending topics, all that great stuff facebook.com/nickyandmoose and follow us everywhere. Nicky and Moose on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook everywhere YouTube, you know? Ya'll know what I mean? But, uh, E thank you so much for being on. We wanted a full blown episode about the flight assessment from the person himself as well as a look inside the brand. So we had to get Karl and C, but we definitely wanted you on for the 10th. This is Episode 10!!! Even numbers, even numbers and we had to get E on so thank you E for being on. Moose.

E.T.: 1:03:40

When you say 10, like you guys only did 10 episodes all together

Nicky Saunders: 1:03:44

Of the podcast. Of the podcast. Yeah, yeah of the podcast. So we

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:03:45

On the audio. had the the Facebook Live show going on to build the audience, but now.

E.T.: 1:03:52

I'm talking about though when you had to like to count down and all the bells and whistles. The J.Lo and the Rick Ross.

Nicky Saunders: 1:03:58

Yeah, that's the Facebook Live joint.

E.T.: 1:04:01

I love it. You guys are doing a phenomenal job man. I yeah, I catch them. I like to just see the crispiness of them. This is like, them joints crispy. And then just the just the innovative look at people that we admire. You know, I'm setting breaking their lives down not just so we could be breaking their lives not like on some gossiping stuff. But on some empowerment stuff, like really making the connection between yo I got the same skill set that that person has. Man I could be doing more. So I really do love the commentary. It's how you guys break that down. There's just so much garbage in the world right now. To see something that is elevating, you know, life change and empowering if y'all know me, man, I can't stand garbage. You know, and it's not because I'm like, I think I'm better than you. It's just like, I know garbage in garbage out. You know you put positive stuff in positive stuff going Come out so super proud of y'all and I just want people to know this what it's about like, you join a family and you join at one level and then you got to take it to another level and you got to contribute and add and you guys are really making the brand look phenomenal so keep keep doing what you're doing and at least get me on once or twice a year you know what I'm saying? Like don't forget about your boy.

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:05:24

We received that cosign though. We received that cosign. That was a nice little cosign.

Nicky Saunders: 1:05:30

Listen, you heard him. He's coming once or twice a year. Once or twice a year to the podcast people so Ima hold them to that.

Mostafa Ghonim: 1:05:38

Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, Doc, you do the honors man, you do the honors. Final words, close us out.

E.T.: 1:05:45

Your final words is I don't know how much life you got left. But live the rest of it. No drama. You know, nothing toxic like you control you. So you owe it to you to get yourself the best life you could possibly have. So again, as I always say, small steps great distances and make the rest of your life, the best your life.